Zebra 3 Public Beta Revision 20399

[PieBerger]

and anyone who disagrees must be a lefty communist!

Lefty communist is best communist

[atmelcool]

Hi, my fl studio 25 froze after I assigned mseg1 to the morph curve, turned on a loop in mseg1 and got a crash at the moment of switching the trigger.

weird, i tried to repeat it, but now everything is fine, i just restarted FL

[mcbpete]

So there's been a bit of back and forth about whether Z3 should have been compatible to Z2. There are a whole lot of reasons it isn't, but if we set those aside and only look at the option of "should Zebra 3 be backwards compatible to Zebra 2?"

I'm wondering if the incremental numbering of the product name may lead to people believing it will be back compatible (to be honest I didn't anticipate it wouldn't be until this beta was released), and there'll be a bunch of confused customers wondering why their vast preset collection no longer appears to work in this new version.

Maybe rather than a number at the end you could (like Native Instruments did with Massive) call it something like Zebra X ... or Zebra Rebirth ... or u-he Unicorn ... (or something much better) ... to let people know this isn't just Zebra v3 but a near 20 year reimagining of that beast from the late 00s

[jasperdunn]

Loving the depth and power!
Is Zebra 3 going to support importing presets from Zebralette 3?

I tried importing a preset and it kind of worked but wasn’t 100% the same, I had to make a few adjustments.

Will this comparability be improved?

[Urs]

Yep, see first post, known issues section

[aMUSEd]

Loving the depth and power!
Is Zebra 3 going to support importing presets from Zebralette 3?

I tried importing a preset and it kind of worked but wasn’t 100% the same, I had to make a few adjustments.

Will this comparability be improved?

Just place the Zebralette preset folder in the Zebra 3 preset folder and you can access them all from the Z3 browser. Some are a bit different but I'm finding most are Ok or close. Bear in mind they will replace an osc if you are loading them when you already have a Z3 Preset loaded, so unless you want to do that (it can be fun swapping out oscs) start with an init preset. That might also account for some sound difference as the additional oscs, fx etc would still be present if loading into an existing preset. It won't replace it like a full Z3 preset does.

[stippenstoh]

I haven't managed to get anything out of Zebra3 that does not sound good. I'm usually an expert at this. What is this witchcraft?

[sheeepsss]

Can someone with some time and patience explain how can we use the pitches section to create in key harmonies with just one key pressed. I'm sure I'm simply misunderstanding something simple but reading the manual didn't help me to grasp the concept. What I'd want to do is something like playing C=Cmaj7, D=Dmin7, E=Emin7, F=Fmaj7, G=Gmaj7, A=min7, B=Bmin7 for example, is this doable? For example the preset "4 notes of acceptance" does something similar (I'm not referring to the chords following the first if I leave the note pressed) but I can't understand the logic behind it

[Andreya_Autumn]

Can someone with some time and patience explain how can we use the pitches section to create in key harmonies with just one key pressed. I'm sure I'm simply misunderstanding something simple but reading the manual didn't help me to grasp the concept. What I'd want to do is something like playing C=Cmaj7, D=Dmin7, E=Emin7, F=Fmaj7, G=Gmaj7, A=min7, B=Bmin7 for example, is this doable? For example the preset "4 notes of acceptance" does something similar (I'm not referring to the chords following the first if I leave the note pressed) but I can't understand the logic behind it

If you want the *same* four-note chord on every note, so C∆, D∆, E∆, F∆ etc... then it's easy right. Leave the first one in the default setting and dial in +4, +7, and +11 in the others (or +3.86, 7.02 and 10.88 for a real nice sound). But if you want them all in-scale that's a bit trickier... lemme experiment and see if it's possible.

[dengste]

For example the preset "4 notes of acceptance" does something similar (I'm not referring to the chords following the first if I leave the note pressed) but I can't understand the logic behind it

The trick this preset uses is the "Quantize" option in the Pitches section. Note that Pitch4 has a different quantization than the other pitches. Play a scale in each oscillator and see how the quantization differs, but I also find it hard to wrap my head around that, since each pitch is of course also shifted and quantization applies after that. I'm not sure if you can program any combination with that...

[Andreya_Autumn]

Like this:

Like this.png

That gives the chords you said you want. The "post transpose" setting on the quantizer of 2 and 4 is important!

If you want it to fully follow the diatonic scale then enable the quantizer on all of them. But you wanted Bm7 not Bm7-5, which is why the perfect fifth (the +7 pitch) doesn't quantize to scale. Turns out that's pretty cool because the root and fifth of each chord work chromatically. So you can get things like C∆7, Db∆7, Dm7, Eb∆7, Em7 etc etc. Lotta fun dub techno chord possibilities here...

[atmelcool]

In the waveform editor, I can't place a point by double-clicking on a graph line. I have to place a point next to it and align it. Why can't I place it on a graph line?

[sheeepsss]

Like this:
Like this.png

That gives the chords you said you want. The "post transpose" setting on the quantizer of 2 and 4 is important!

If you want it to fully follow the diatonic scale then enable the quantizer on all of them. But you wanted Bm7 not Bm7-5, which is why the perfect fifth (the +7 pitch) doesn't quantize to scale. Turns out that's pretty cool because the root and fifth of each chord work chromatically. So you can get things like C∆7, Db∆7, Dm7, Eb∆7, Em7 etc etc. Lotta fun dub techno chord possibilities here...

Thank you very much sir, I will experiment with those settings and try to understand the logic a bit more with some time.

[Urs]

In the waveform editor, I can't place a point by double-clicking on a graph line. I have to place a point next to it and align it. Why can't I place it on a graph line?

Because clicking a line straightens it (as people are used to in Z2 MSEGs... - but I'm happy to change this)

[Howard]

Here's a simplistic example of my standard method of getting diatonic chords using Mappers:

CHORDS.h2p.zip