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Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:11 am

Crackbaby wrote:That vocoder sounds so damn retro <3

Faithfull to the sound of an era

Top Octave Divider String Machine is also unique. As the *Analog Human* ... voices. You can hear the strings in countless glorious tracks.

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:12 am

breakmixer wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:A very cool demo of the V+ :

Supreme 1

7 V+ instances + Kontakt for the drums
nice, defo get this plug end of month...

Intro price period is ending on June 31 Breakmixer. No need to haste, but it might be better to keep the date in mind

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:17 pm

Lotuzia wrote:
breakmixer wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:A very cool demo of the V+ :

Supreme 1

7 V+ instances + Kontakt for the drums
nice, defo get this plug end of month...
Intro price period is ending on June 31 Breakmixer. No need to haste, but it might be better to keep the date in mind

I'm waiting for the end of the month financially, I'm so busy with work atm no time for music, but I just got to have this plug - most awesome release this year so far IMO.

I'm wondering if the original Roland was used by Twilight 22 on Electric Kingdom,

Vocoder and male vocal(not the rapping) sounds, could it be?

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:02 pm

Lotuzia wrote:
Intro price period is ending on June 31 Breakmixer. No need to haste, but it might be better to keep the date in mind

June 31? Really? We don't need to hurry, then

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:42 am

breakmixer wrote: I'm waiting for the end of the month financially, I'm so busy with work atm no time for music, but I just got to have this plug - most awesome release this year so far IMO.

I'm wondering if the original Roland was used by Twilight 22 on Electric Kingdom,

Vocoder and male vocal(not the rapping) sounds, could it be?

Thanks for your kind words Breakmixer

As for the track, yes I'd say there are 99% chances its a VP, and not only for the Vocoder male vocals, but also ....... for the Strings sounds

And to Fmr :

Yeah June 30th is better

LtZ

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:59 pm

Lotuzia wrote:
breakmixer wrote:
I'm wondering if the original Roland was used by Twilight 22 on Electric Kingdom,

As for the track, yes I'd say there are 99% chances its a VP, and not only for the Vocoder male vocals, but also ....... for the Strings sounds

LtZ

Cheers Laurent, what about 3:03 is that a VP sound, kinda of male choir sound layered with a string...? They where the male vocal sound I was really refering to...

Also OT but to do with the track, what is the plucky Clavinet-ish sound, is that a harpsicord? I'm curious - anyone know?

xavier · Post by **xavier** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:04 am

el-folie wrote:Dear XILS Lab,

I know it might be too early for some requests but just to let you know:

This morning I compared V+ to the VP-330MKI hardware and overall it's a pretty convincing emulation. But as always there are some smaller/unimportant differences like between two hardware units/different calibrations but also one big difference so far which I think is very important for a spot on emulation.

The attack envelope in the human voice section behaves differently on the hardware. On V+ it's like a normal attack time stage like on the strings section. On the hardware the attack slider in the human voice section seems to be part of a complete envelope that forms an attack at the beginning + a fixed decay stage and the volume falls back on a lower sustain level than it begins with when pressing a key. Of course this behaviour is monophonic and so, when you hold a chord or some notes in the lower octaves and play some notes in the higher octaves those higher notes are significantly quieter (as the lower sustain level is being held). This makes a big difference in sound and playing style so I think it should be noted for the next update. I remember this behaviour also from a Solina String Ensemble I once had.

Also this attack/decay behaviour is crucial for the gnarling human voice sound in the lowest notes, so I'd be glad if this would be emulated. I already used the mod envelope to form the special attack/decay but as it's polyphonic only (a mono switch would be nice here) you don't get the same result when playing (every new note triggers the V+ mod envelope), and also you have to route the mod envelope to every human voice tone independently which occupies 4 modulation slots, so it's not a good workaround.

Additionally it would be nice to have the formant controls of the human voice section as modulation destinations as the low gnarling/woody sound starts at a lower formant and shifts up a bit with keyboard position in the lowest octave. In case you need audio examples or think that my VP330 is broken, please let me know

Oh and when I'm at it - it would also be nice to have direct control over the ensemble effect speeds and bucket brigade low pass filter (like a brilliance control) as they also differ from hardware machine to hardware machine.

I know these are a number of requests but I'm just crazy about the VP/V+ and would like it to become as close as possible to the hardware.

That said I already love V+! I managed to get the strings spot on to the hardware... Thanks a ton!!!

Hi el-folie

Your post puzzled me a lot during the last weeks (thank to electro for the hint too !)
I was aware of this difference regarding the envelope of the Human Voice, but during all the development of the XILS V+, reading the schematics, I never notice the difference between the strings envelope circuitry and the Human voice one.
I really thought the two part was identical and that this envelope behaviour was coming from the tremolo compender. I search and analysed this latter for weeks, tweaking each part to match them with the original, but obviously didn't get the same exact overall result as it comes from somewhere else.

So your post puzzled me and as you (and electro) were still speaking about the envelope and I began to look deeper to the schematics: The differences between strings and Human Voices was right to my eyes. How could I miss it !
Anyway, I changed the Human Voice paraphonic (and polyphonic) envelope to reproduce this.

Already available on the current 1.0.2 beta version (June 27th) which will be officially release tomorrow (June 28th)

About your wishes (new modulation possibilities) I put them on my todo list !

Best regards
Xavier

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:32 am

V+ 1.0.2 Version has been released :

* VST3 : the sample frequency is correctly set
* VST3 : various crashes fixes
* AAX : ready for PT11 (and PT10.3)
* AAX : Mono/stereo available
* AAX 64 bits : Mouse handling fixes
* AudioUnit 64 bits : Vienna Ensemble GUI issue fixed.
* HV Algorithm : Human Voice paraphonic (and polyphonic) envelope has been improved to match in a better way the real thing.

and finally :

* Vocoder is now playing even when your DAW is stopped !

Also : Two days left for the intro price

electro · Post by **electro** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:15 pm

A VP330 really well done and this fixes what little the 1.0 release missed. So far XILS V+ is the VSTI favorite of 2013.

xavier · Post by **xavier** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:55 am

electro wrote:A VP330 really well done and this fixes what little the 1.0 release missed. So far XILS V+ is the VSTI favorite of 2013.

Thanks electro,

Much appreciated.

Getting such of nice comments are always encouraging !

Best regards
Xavier

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:20 pm

I'm going nuts a bit here, downloaded the license to my E-licenser, installed the latest e-licenser version from the website to my offline music pc.

Using Cubase 7 32bit install on Windows 7 pc,

VST 3 32bit version shows in my Vstplugins but shuts down Cubase 7 when I try to load the plugin - Cubase needs to close message.

VST 2.4. 32bit version crashes when scanning at start up of Cubase or next time I reload Cubase 7 and do a manual scan(i.e. Update) as the plugins .dll's are in the Vstplugins folder but Cubase is not seeing them(no matter where I install them to, eith my own path or default).

Tried uninstall in control panel, manual deleting VST 3/.dll's, shutting down pc/rebooting/reinstalling/uninstalling - everything.

I haven't got to even see the ui yet - what is the problem - is it the dongle, took it back to the online pc to do a maintenance now and going to try one last time. If I get it working I will get back to you, going to try now...

dusted william · Post by **dusted william** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:22 pm

I had a I two problems.

1. was related to ilok. got fixed.

2. now my next, on my windows PC when I load into live about 60% of the time I'm told that "this vst is not compatible with LIve"

haven't tried any other DAWS.

dw

electro · Post by **electro** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:30 pm

Try the latest version of 1.02 dated June 30

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:47 pm

electro wrote:Try the latest version of 1.02 dated June 30

I only installed today - that is the version - I'm going to try 1.01 now to see if that works...

electro · Post by **electro** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:49 pm

breakmixer wrote:
electro wrote:Try the latest version of 1.02 dated June 30
I only installed today - that is the version - I'm going to try 1.01 now to see if that works...

Are you able to try a 64bit version of Cubase?

XILS Roland Vocoder VP-330 Plus - NEW SYNTH