UVI Falcon - v4 = 2026 released - rumors, ads, praise, kindergarden, auto-sampling and off-topic inside!

[Neon Breath]

Really sick of all these software companies wanting premium prices for half baked workflows.

Now come on. Imperfect? Yes. Room for improvements? For sure. But « half baked » is a pretty harsh judgment. Falcon while still not perfect is one of the most solid and complete plugin instrument.

[Lazarus451]

I would check some youtube videos from Venus Theory, Marula Music and Quanta and then decide if I want to get Falcon. It's great for complicated hybrid pads etc., not so good for tweaking fast simple sounds (like Serum and Diva for example).

[machinesworking]

To me it's a desert island plug in. It can host and tweak most of UVI's sample library, which is obvious if you know that it started off as a collaboration with MOTU in the MachFive sampler which ended at v3. UVI have taken it much further though adding in all the synthesis engines. It's MPE implementation is fantastic, this alone makes it worth it to me. I hardly turn to other synths for MPE control besides Plasmonic. For mangling samples I like it much better than Kontakt. I'm also a long time U-He Zebra user so maybe it's semi modular approach doesn't bother me much, I dunno, but I don't have a problem doing simple or complex things with it.

[digitallysane]

IMO Falcon really shines on a very narrow use case. I think it's only really worth it if you want/need to make ultra complex hybrid patches (synth + samples) and/or you want to make stuff using the IRCAM algos.

The UX is pretty bad but, for the use case I described, it's really the only product out there that can pull it off.

I got Falcon and ended up selling it since I just couldn't stand the workflow.

For synth stuff, PhasePlant and Zebra can solve all my needs with a workflow that is really lightyears ahead.

For deep multisampling I'd rather use Kontakt, Halion, or even Soundpaint which allows you to create new patches using the samples from the libraries you buy.

For doing hybrid stuff there are many synths that load samples these days (PhasePlant, Equator, Pigments, Dune, Rapid).

Or to make complex stuff with multiple layers, I could just use multiple plugins running in parallel (like in a Bitwig rack). I'd rather do that than using Falcon, but that's just me. With all its faults as a DAW, Bitwig is really a much better sound design environment than Falcon will ever be.

So much nonsense in one single post.
It is funny that even after quite some time of not using it, you're still in the Falcon thread just to post your BS concepts about UX.

[rasmusklump]

Falcon together with nearly all of UVI s sample libraries is my main instrument that I have on nearly every track. And the Ravenscroft piano library to me is the best virtual piano.

[trusampler]

Really sick of all these software companies wanting premium prices for half baked workflows.

Now come on. Imperfect? Yes. Room for improvements? For sure. But « half baked » is a pretty harsh judgment. Falcon while still not perfect is one of the most solid and complete plugin instrument.

Maybe I'm in the minority with this view, I'll try to explain, but I sincerely believe there's musicians that are fine with the non interaction with hardware, meaning guys and gals who play the keyboard, and make changes after the fact in their Daw etc.

And then there's those, that depend on hardware like myself, that need to feel the connection, eg: turning knobs, playing the keyboard while changing patches finally hearing and feeling what our brains and ears are actually wanting to hear. Realtime Performance.

So yes, in my opinion I find Cherry Audio synths, and Vsts that do proper midi much more fun to work with. Half baked is definitely what Falcon feels like to me,as it's if they gave up on the performance aspect,when it came to assigning midi CC's for performing realtime, or made it such a task that it takes the fun away from it for me, again I'm pretty sure I'm the minority here,just my opinion. Hope that's okay for KVR and it makes sense.

[digitallysane]

So yes, in my opinion I find Cherry Audio synths, and Vsts that do proper midi much more fun to work with. Half baked is definitely what Falcon feels like to me,as it's if they gave up on the performance aspect,when it came to assigning midi CC's for performing realtime, or made it such a task that it takes the fun away from it for me, again I'm pretty sure I'm the minority here,just my opinion. Hope that's okay for KVR and it makes sense.

It's modular. You can do things however you want, which means they can't be done for you.
Do you have any suggestion of how this should be done?

[gondii]

If I purchase Falcon from a third party vendor, do I still get the $100 voucher?

The FAQ says that it's automatically added when registering Falcon, but I just know that the regular vouchers do not apply to third party purchases, wondering if it's different for this voucher specifically.

[Hanz Meyzer]

Thanks for the great update, finally VST3, very nice!

[machinesworking]

Really sick of all these software companies wanting premium prices for half baked workflows.

Now come on. Imperfect? Yes. Room for improvements? For sure. But « half baked » is a pretty harsh judgment. Falcon while still not perfect is one of the most solid and complete plugin instrument.

Maybe I'm in the minority with this view, I'll try to explain, but I sincerely believe there's musicians that are fine with the non interaction with hardware, meaning guys and gals who play the keyboard, and make changes after the fact in their Daw etc.

And then there's those, that depend on hardware like myself, that need to feel the connection, eg: turning knobs, playing the keyboard while changing patches finally hearing and feeling what our brains and ears are actually wanting to hear. Realtime Performance.

So yes, in my opinion I find Cherry Audio synths, and Vsts that do proper midi much more fun to work with. Half baked is definitely what Falcon feels like to me,as it's if they gave up on the performance aspect,when it came to assigning midi CC's for performing realtime, or made it such a task that it takes the fun away from it for me, again I'm pretty sure I'm the minority here,just my opinion. Hope that's okay for KVR and it makes sense.

You can permanently assign MIDI CC's throughout any patch in Falcon.
Cherry audio etc. have fixed interfaces for this, and IMO it's smarter to assign Macros to your common CC messages etc. In terms of performance, there are plenty of patches with all the regular MIDI controls, plus interesting uses of the pitch wheel etc.

[machinesworking]

So yes, in my opinion I find Cherry Audio synths, and Vsts that do proper midi much more fun to work with. Half baked is definitely what Falcon feels like to me,as it's if they gave up on the performance aspect,when it came to assigning midi CC's for performing realtime, or made it such a task that it takes the fun away from it for me, again I'm pretty sure I'm the minority here,just my opinion. Hope that's okay for KVR and it makes sense.

It's modular. You can do things however you want, which means they can't be done for you.
Do you have any suggestion of how this should be done?

Personally I wish the Macros acted like macros do for NI etc. or the 4 XY pads in Zebra, where they keep their CC assignments across all patches. So a bank of 8, 16, 32 etc. macros that are permanently assigned to the CC's you choose to assign them to. This way you could use the control surface approach of Logic, Live, Bitwig etc. or CC approach of DP etc.

You can permanently assign and save MIDI CC's to macros in programs, but I just kinda think they dropped the ball on the idea of macros in terms of immediate gratification. It's not that bad but I could see how that would be a better front end than ever changing macros only. I would love to be proven wrong here, but it seems that there isn't a universal MIDI or track automation bank, you would have to go through all programs and create that.

[EvilDragon]

But the main problem is that macros can have completely different layouts between any two patches, which means cutoff wouldn't always be cutoff etc. Also they can work differently too, the same macro (i.e. macro 3) can be continuous vs on/off toggle, unipolar vs bipolar...

[aMUSEd]

So yes, in my opinion I find Cherry Audio synths, and Vsts that do proper midi much more fun to work with. Half baked is definitely what Falcon feels like to me,as it's if they gave up on the performance aspect,when it came to assigning midi CC's for performing realtime, or made it such a task that it takes the fun away from it for me, again I'm pretty sure I'm the minority here,just my opinion. Hope that's okay for KVR and it makes sense.

It's modular. You can do things however you want, which means they can't be done for you.
Do you have any suggestion of how this should be done?

Personally I wish the Macros acted like macros do for NI etc. or the 4 XY pads in Zebra, where they keep their CC assignments across all patches. So a bank of 8, 16, 32 etc. macros that are permanently assigned to the CC's you choose to assign them to. This way you could use the control surface approach of Logic, Live, Bitwig etc. or CC approach of DP etc.

You can permanently assign and save MIDI CC's to macros in programs, but I just kinda think they dropped the ball on the idea of macros in terms of immediate gratification. It's not that bad but I could see how that would be a better front end than ever changing macros only. I would love to be proven wrong here, but it seems that there isn't a universal MIDI or track automation bank, you would have to go through all programs and create that.

That's why I have all my Falcon libraries mapped in Komplete Kontrol as you can do that on a per preset level there

You could potentially do the same in Bitwig but it would take a lot of work (as it did in KK) - maybe just for favourite patches?

[SLiC]

Good deal at the moment $244.00 with 2 free expansions.

[Biome_Digital]

Falcon is on sale for 30% off, not sure whether to bite and I can't make my mind up based on the demo stuff I'm hearing. Is it worth getting if I already have: Ominsphere, Diva, Repro, Massive X, Avenger, Dune, all the NI stuff, all the TAL stuff, Pigments, Arturia V collection? Does it bring anything special to the table that wouldn't be covered by those synths? Thanks.

I think Falcon does offer something a little different. It's got some nice effects too. Once you get your head around the structure it's not too bad to program. It is very complex though, only worth getting if you don't mind going in deep and learning it, or maybe as a preset player. I'd recommend demoing any preset expansion first though. You can check out mine here - https://newloops.com/products/alive-falcon-expansion Only £19.99 for 130 presets too!