KVR Audio

JumpingJackFlash · Post by **JumpingJackFlash** » Sun May 07, 2006 4:56 pm

To both Aleksey Vaneev and Torben: When are your respective products going to be available for OS X?

Aleksey Vaneev · Post by **Aleksey Vaneev** » Sun May 07, 2006 6:49 pm

Torben, r8brain PRO is a decent sampler rate converter. And I will repeat that Ozone *does* pass such test (so, it means more than if only Elephant passed it). Moreover, in min-phase mode MPL leaves considerably higher overshoots. So, this is not about resampler - it is exactly about intersample limiting precision of MPL.

Aleksey Vaneev · Post by **Aleksey Vaneev** » Sun May 07, 2006 7:19 pm

JumpingJackFlash, we are working on Mac OS X here.. VST is already working. We'll get to AU soon.

Torben · Post by **Torben** » Sun May 07, 2006 7:57 pm

Aleksey Vaneev wrote:Torben, r8brain PRO is a decent sampler rate converter.

Sure Aleksey! That must be why I can not open any files made with it. They seems to be corrupted. Fine tool

Aleksey Vaneev wrote:And I will repeat that Ozone *does* pass such test (so, it means more than if only Elephant passed it). Moreover, in min-phase mode MPL leaves considerably higher overshoots. So, this is not about resampler - it is exactly about intersample limiting precision of MPL.

Fine, Aleksey continue to badmouth our products. Nice to see your true color. But you know, I haven't got time for this kind of bullshit. If you want to play this way I can't do anything about it. I just hope your customers realize who you really are.

Torben

Aleksey Vaneev · Post by **Aleksey Vaneev** » Sun May 07, 2006 8:07 pm

Torben, make sure app you are using reads WAV files correctly. WAV is a tricky format and if WAV reader within the app was designed incorrectly, it won't understand additional data chunks. Or just name the application - I'll see what I can do.

I do not really care about your products - but I do care about technology badmouthing that you have seemingly started. If you are stating that oversampling is a wrong technology, you should have at least proved that your approach really works.

Torben · Post by **Torben** » Sun May 07, 2006 8:19 pm

Aleksey Vaneev wrote:Torben, make sure app you are using reads WAV files correctly. WAV is a tricky format and if WAV reader within the app was designed incorrectly, it won't understand additional data chunks. Or just name the application - I'll see what I can do.

I have tried to import them in several applications, no problems with any other wave files than the ones from your converter.

Aleksey Vaneev wrote:I do not really care about your products - but I do care about technology badmouthing that you have seemingly started. If you are stating that oversampling is a wrong technology, you should have at least proved that your approach really works.

Oh, so now you feel offended because we write in our manual it is better only to upsample the sidechain. OK it seems you feel attacked by many things Aleksey. You do not seems to notice that you are the one attacking again and again!

Torben

jammer42777 · Post by **jammer42777** » Sun May 07, 2006 8:30 pm

<QUOTE>
Fine, Aleksey continue to badmouth our products. Nice to see your true color. But you know, I haven't got time for this kind of bullshit. If you want to play this way I can't do anything about it. I just hope your customers realize who you really are.

Torben
</QUOTE>

I think I'm just going to use wave art's channel Strip

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Sun May 07, 2006 8:33 pm

nevermind me, but I thoroughly enjoy this masquerade. (the song) It's only my two absolute favourite developers (besides Rupert Neve and a few other crowned kings maybe).

*leans back and enjoys the show*

Aleksey Vaneev · Post by **Aleksey Vaneev** » Sun May 07, 2006 8:33 pm

Torben, you are coming down to personalities, unfortunately - so I cannot continue arguing.

WAV files created by r8brain PRO can be read by almost all professional applications available on the market. If that was not so, I should have received a lot of problem reports. Anyway, you should have stated which application are you using to open WAV files produced by r8brain PRO. For example, Cubase SX cannot open 32 bit fixed point files (as far as I know) - in that case you should use 32-bit float output. Without knowing the application I cannot give you any suggestion to resolve the situation.

defjamm · Post by **defjamm** » Sun May 07, 2006 8:44 pm

tried the demo of r8brain pro, converted something from 44khz to 96khz, the wave loaded fine in samplitude.

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Sun May 07, 2006 8:46 pm

And irrelevant on the subject, but it's no doubt on my shopping list. I can't imagine the wav format being any different to r8brain free version(if the correct float formats are used, also pointed out by aleksey), and that has worked flawlessly everywhere. (everywhere even includes mac PT and audiosculpt)

Torben · Post by **Torben** » Sun May 07, 2006 8:48 pm

Aleksey Vaneev wrote:Torben, you are coming down to personalities, unfortunately - so I cannot continue arguing.

You stopped that a long time ago and started badmouthing instead. I am happy to know you are going to stop that.

Aleksey Vaneev wrote:WAV files created by r8brain PRO can be read by almost all professional applications available on the market. If that was not so, I should have received a lot of problem reports. Anyway, you should have stated which application are you using to open WAV files produced by r8brain PRO. For example, Cubase SX cannot open 32 bit fixed point files (as far as I know) - in that case you should use 32-bit float output. Without knowing the application I cannot give you any suggestion to resolve the situation.

I guess we have to wait for a "professional" host from Aleksey then because Cubase SX and other I have tried can't open it.

EDIT: OK, OK, Right must be right it can. It was the 32bit fixed point that did not work!

Torben

Dandruff · Post by **Dandruff** » Sun May 07, 2006 8:51 pm

Torben wrote:I guess we have to wait for a "professional" host from Aleksey then because Cubase SX and other I have tried can't open it.

Torben

DuX · Post by **DuX** » Sun May 07, 2006 8:54 pm

I don't have anything against Torben, but I have to say that I and many other people around me are using r8brain on regular basis and have absolutely no problems whatsoeva with it

. On the contrary, I think it's the one of [two] best sample converters on PC.

I couldn't keep my mouth shut cause it strikes me as quite odd that he cannot open those converted files anywhere ?

While at it, I'd like to say that you guys make the best native PC plugins there are, both of you, at least IMHO. I hope something good will come up from all this arguing, like some even better quality plugs

. Arguing can be very productive.

Cheers!

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Sun May 07, 2006 8:55 pm

I have to agree with bmanic here. Clipping is a great tool in mastering and if a limiter produces commercially irrevant amouts of intersample saturation, it's not a real problem *insert the treaded IMO here*. Whatever the claims made by Kjaerhus Audio, or the obviously different measuring schemes compared to Voxengo Elephant, I feel it would be adviceable to forget about it, and maybe raise a toast in celebration of great development.

*krhm*

I already had two, hence the completely irrelevant posting.

Voxengo Marquis Compressor VST 1.4 released