Rhino features suggestions
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- R.I.P.
- 3833 posts since 8 Sep, 2003 from Santa Clara, CA, USA
Heres something that been on my mind
How about some KNOBS! You have great knobs on all your other stuff as well as 3D type looks. Also, ( not to complain) but Rhino looks kinda 2D. If you had some 3D sliders or knobs it would bring up the eye candy appeal which seems to grab people these days ( did anyone say Moog modular?)
Of course it's not really nessisary. However if you were going to add some knobs, you could do it on the effects page. Am I being too picky here asking for 3D Knobs and sliders?
Just an idea
Tim
How about some KNOBS! You have great knobs on all your other stuff as well as 3D type looks. Also, ( not to complain) but Rhino looks kinda 2D. If you had some 3D sliders or knobs it would bring up the eye candy appeal which seems to grab people these days ( did anyone say Moog modular?)
Of course it's not really nessisary. However if you were going to add some knobs, you could do it on the effects page. Am I being too picky here asking for 3D Knobs and sliders?
Just an idea
Tim
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- KVRist
- 457 posts since 30 Jun, 2003 from cinci, oh
(1) rhino has a lot of hidden features -- i think i have found most of them, but not sure. it would be interesting if there were some sort of widget to indicate the presence of a "hidden" drop menu; to be honest, rhino can be a bit complicated to navigate. heck, i have still not found the (serial / parallel) toggle for the filters.
(2) perhaps a few more tutorials would help; on finding and using the less obvious stuff.
(3) many widget settings (envelops/waves) can be saved in rhino; it would be nice to have a package of presets for those as well. there is a fairly complete set under the pitch envelop folder; but some of the other folders are fairly sparce.
(2) perhaps a few more tutorials would help; on finding and using the less obvious stuff.
(3) many widget settings (envelops/waves) can be saved in rhino; it would be nice to have a package of presets for those as well. there is a fairly complete set under the pitch envelop folder; but some of the other folders are fairly sparce.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3388 posts since 29 May, 2001 from New York, NY
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- KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
I will gladly donate some piano, rhodes and wurlitzer waveforms if you are interested as well.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3388 posts since 29 May, 2001 from New York, NY
Actually I'll love to get as many copyright-free samples as possible, to build a new waveforms add-on pack. So, yes, please send me whatever you have. I don't guarantee I'll use everything, but I'll try.
Cheers,
'Tick
Cheers,
'Tick
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
if one has a set of waveforms what sort of tool does one use to create a single-cycle waveform from that
and how does one recognize a single cycle waveform?
so far I've been unable to import a wave file into rhino for re-synthesis. I assume it's beacuse these are all 1 - 2 second wav files samples.
if I break a wav sample in something like Cakewalk's Cyclone would that work (if I could figure out a way to save the portion)?
Haven't looked into thi stoo much. Need a little education before I dig in.
and how does one recognize a single cycle waveform?
so far I've been unable to import a wave file into rhino for re-synthesis. I assume it's beacuse these are all 1 - 2 second wav files samples.
if I break a wav sample in something like Cakewalk's Cyclone would that work (if I could figure out a way to save the portion)?
Haven't looked into thi stoo much. Need a little education before I dig in.
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- KVRist
- 457 posts since 30 Jun, 2003 from cinci, oh
wrench,
use any wav editor to zoom into your wav file and and highlight / save a small portion of it (just one, or a few cycles). according to tic, is does not *need* to be exactly a single cycle. i am speculating, but i think the fewer the cycles, the cleaner and more accurate the spectrum analysis will be.
"audacity" is freeware, and it can be used to clip out a few cycles of a wav (plus normalize the portion as well). unfortunitely, it does not have a "save as mono" option. so....
[edit: actually, audacity *can* save mono wav files in the proper format, you just need to do a copy/paste operation. so, audacity is all you need to chop out a single cycle for import into rhino -- works like a charm.]
you will then need to import/export the mini wav clip with sonar, to convert it from stereo to mono, because rhino will not automatically convert stereo wavs into mono (yet).
use any wav editor to zoom into your wav file and and highlight / save a small portion of it (just one, or a few cycles). according to tic, is does not *need* to be exactly a single cycle. i am speculating, but i think the fewer the cycles, the cleaner and more accurate the spectrum analysis will be.
"audacity" is freeware, and it can be used to clip out a few cycles of a wav (plus normalize the portion as well). unfortunitely, it does not have a "save as mono" option. so....
[edit: actually, audacity *can* save mono wav files in the proper format, you just need to do a copy/paste operation. so, audacity is all you need to chop out a single cycle for import into rhino -- works like a charm.]
you will then need to import/export the mini wav clip with sonar, to convert it from stereo to mono, because rhino will not automatically convert stereo wavs into mono (yet).
Last edited by pummel on Fri Dec 12, 2003 2:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRist
- 261 posts since 24 Jul, 2002 from Tennessee
EZ-Editor $20 from Image-Line Software works well for short sample editing and creating smooth loops.
Audition (formerly CoolEdit), Sound Forge, and Wavelab have far more sophisticated tools for editing larger files. These are far more expensive too.
Audition (formerly CoolEdit), Sound Forge, and Wavelab have far more sophisticated tools for editing larger files. These are far more expensive too.
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- KVRAF
- 3476 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from NE Ohio, USA
Indeed... I have Sound Forge Studio (came with Acid) and EZ-Editor. For the type of work we're talking about here EZ-Editor is much easier to work with. I also prefer to use it when dinking with samples to make/tweak soundfonts.jzero wrote:EZ-Editor $20 from Image-Line Software works well for short sample editing and creating smooth loops.
Audition (formerly CoolEdit), Sound Forge, and Wavelab have far more sophisticated tools for editing larger files. These are far more expensive too.
On the other hand, SFS can read MP3's natively (for example, if you're looking for a single-cycle wave out of a pop song from 20 years ago). I think MusicMatch converts the MP3's faster than SFS, though.
Doug
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- KVRist
- 457 posts since 30 Jun, 2003 from cinci, oh
(1) stretch 150%, on envelops (this would provide instant access the 'odd' timings, rather than just multiples of 2 -- very useful on envelop LFOs)
(2) cut/copy/paste (or load/save), for osc's and filters *in their entirety*. this would facilitate combining patches; ie, making a 4 osc patch from two 2 osc patches.
(3) an envelop for the wet/dry effect slider
(2) cut/copy/paste (or load/save), for osc's and filters *in their entirety*. this would facilitate combining patches; ie, making a 4 osc patch from two 2 osc patches.
(3) an envelop for the wet/dry effect slider
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- KVRist
- 296 posts since 8 Mar, 2003 from Boston, MA
I guess one thing that comes to my mind: a virtual keyboard for the standalone Rhino (at the bottom). Maybe one that could show / hide with a switch? It is very helpful for the times you are not near a MIDI controller (i.e. when I'm on my laptop).

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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3388 posts since 29 May, 2001 from New York, NY
OK for (1) and (2). (3) is unpractical since an envelop is tied to a note, while effects are global (applied to all notes simultaneously).pummel wrote:(1) stretch 150%, on envelops (this would provide instant access the 'odd' timings, rather than just multiples of 2 -- very useful on envelop LFOs)
(2) cut/copy/paste (or load/save), for osc's and filters *in their entirety*. this would facilitate combining patches; ie, making a 4 osc patch from two 2 osc patches.
(3) an envelop for the wet/dry effect slider
Agreed as well.serge wrote:a virtual keyboard for the standalone Rhino (at the bottom).
'Tick
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3388 posts since 29 May, 2001 from New York, NY
Actually, if you bring up the preset list and click anywhere outside the menu, you'll close the menu without changing anything.foosnark wrote:Or at least... make it so when you right-click (thinking it had copy and paste, heh) and it brings up a list of patches to select, you can cancel so you don't lose the changes you've made
'Tick
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- KVRist
- 457 posts since 30 Jun, 2003 from cinci, oh
how about a time KS for the filters, so that they can scale with the osc.
also, how about doubling the size of the wav tool -- no reason for it to be so small, its launched in exclusive mode anyway.
also, how about doubling the size of the wav tool -- no reason for it to be so small, its launched in exclusive mode anyway.
