KVR Audio

007 · Post by **007** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:24 pm

eduardo_b wrote:
007 wrote:What is wrong with the word 'warm'? A very common description in classical music.
Well, that works in classical music, but here in KVRland, warm is synonymous with the exalted analogue warmth, a form of distortion worshipped by some. Not me, but others.

The warmness of a violin is also caused by harmonics, so essentially the same.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:34 pm

Arksun wrote:
bduffy wrote:Yep, yep, absolutely: I've had it up to here with "analog" this or that. I see the word "warm" now, and I just want to tear my hair out! Bottom line: the title of this thread and arksun's elation kind of led me to expect something less subtle or subjective. I appreciate you and bermudagold pointing it out; I just got a little pinchy.
Sorry if my descriptive side was misleading, wasn't my intention. Thats the problem when describing something, everyone has a different idea of what 'warm' and all the other superlatives actually mean.

I still stand by saying that this is one of the finest software eq's I have ever tried, really impressed the socks off me.

Shit, I re-read what I wrote and I was like, "Damn! I hope arksun doesn't think I'm insulting him or saying he was being misleading!" - which I wasn't. I haven't used the original EQ, so I'm certain you know plenty I don't: I was just expecting to be blown away a bit more, that's all. Sorry, mate: I knew what you meant.

That being said, maybe it is time to sit down with a mix and see what happens! But I sure find those tests inconclusive.

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:35 pm

007 wrote:
eduardo_b wrote:
007 wrote:What is wrong with the word 'warm'? A very common description in classical music.
Well, that works in classical music, but here in KVRland, warm is synonymous with the exalted analogue warmth, a form of distortion worshipped by some. Not me, but others.
The warmness of a violin is also caused by harmonics, so essentially the same.

The difference is that the attempt to do this with plug-ins is to use digital coding to try and emulate an analogue phenomenon. With violins, it's about capturing all of the harmonics and subtleties that make these instruments what they are. The goal may be the same, but the processes and results are not.

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:36 pm

bduffy wrote:
Arksun wrote:
bduffy wrote:Yep, yep, absolutely: I've had it up to here with "analog" this or that. I see the word "warm" now, and I just want to tear my hair out! Bottom line: the title of this thread and arksun's elation kind of led me to expect something less subtle or subjective. I appreciate you and bermudagold pointing it out; I just got a little pinchy.
Sorry if my descriptive side was misleading, wasn't my intention. Thats the problem when describing something, everyone has a different idea of what 'warm' and all the other superlatives actually mean.

I still stand by saying that this is one of the finest software eq's I have ever tried, really impressed the socks off me.
Shit, I re-read what I wrote and I was like, "Damn! I hope arksun doesn't think I'm insulting him or saying he was being misleading!" - which I wasn't. I haven't used the original EQ, so I'm certain you know plenty I don't: I was just expecting to be blown away a bit more, that's all. Sorry, mate: I knew what you meant.

That being said, maybe it is time to sit down with a mix and see what happens! But I sure find those tests inconclusive.

So you managed to download it via the torrent?

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:37 pm

Yeah - you having problems with it?

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:42 pm

bduffy wrote:Yeah - you having problems with it?

No traffic after an hour, so that doesn't look good. Zip. None. Nada.

Oh, you get the idea.

waiting man · Post by **waiting man** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:46 pm

seeding now, buddies.

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:52 pm

waiting man wrote:seeding now, buddies.

Opera torrent module does nothing, my other torrent app (BitPump -- very good if the torrent is) says it's unable to find tracker.

Too bad this download isn't on a file-sharing site. That's a hint, by the way.

007 · Post by **007** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:55 pm

eduardo_b wrote:
007 wrote:
eduardo_b wrote:
007 wrote:What is wrong with the word 'warm'? A very common description in classical music.
Well, that works in classical music, but here in KVRland, warm is synonymous with the exalted analogue warmth, a form of distortion worshipped by some. Not me, but others.
The warmness of a violin is also caused by harmonics, so essentially the same.
The difference is that the attempt to do this with plug-ins is to use digital coding to try and emulate an analogue phenomenon. With violins, it's about capturing all of the harmonics and subtleties that make these instruments what they are. The goal may be the same, but the processes and results are not.

OK, the proces is different but the qualification warm is the same. The qualification 'warm' has proven itself since a long time among musicians. It is obvious that some eq's have a 'warm' sound. Nothing wrong with that.

waiting man · Post by **waiting man** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:58 pm

had some activity but dloads are stopped now.

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:07 am

007 wrote:It is obvious that some eq's have a 'warm' sound. Nothing wrong with that.

Agreed. Nothing wrong with EQ warmth...unless, of course, one doesn't want it. An EQ for every musical taste.

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:09 am

waiting man wrote:had some activity but dloads are stopped now.

I see 11 seeders on the site, but my second attempt still has no traffic. Don't know why. I download and share torrents all the time.

Arksun · Post by **Arksun** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:12 am

Wierd, I've been seeding all night.

There have been known problems with certain torrent programs.

Like I usually use uTorrent (which has worked for every other site I've used it with) and it just refused to work at all with any of the torrents on nebula-programs.com

Couldn't understand at all why it wasn't working but for the hell of it I downloaded the latest Azureus and that worked a treat.

Try that torrent program if the others aren't working. I'll keep mine running through the night so you'll have at least one person seeding.

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:16 am

Arksun wrote:I downloaded the latest Azureus and that worked a treat.

Try that torrent program if the others aren't working.

Where's the best place to pick it up?

Arksun · Post by **Arksun** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:18 am

http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php

Incredible new EQ type for Nebula plugin