Any VST like Virus TI !?

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goldenanalog wrote:
I could see access charging and getting $200 - $300 consistently for a true Virus TI port/reimagining - especially if what they wind up selling and supporting truly is expanded over their hardware platform.
My guess is that the 'magic' of the Virus is in the hardware and once it was a softsynth it would be competing against the amazing array of soft synths available today. Due to name they might be able to charge a high price initially, but my guess is it would not hold. For example, I don't think the Virus filters are in the same league as the latest analogue emulated filters available now.

Access should stick to hardware. That is how they can maintain their mystique. I'm doubtful that they can compete with the quality level and diversity of the software world.

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I'm inclined to agree with you, pdxindy - and I would hate to see them leave hardware - but just guessing: they certainly seem to be smart enough to know that if they decide to do a full migration to the PC, that they'll be at a make or break point - the fact of the matter is that even companies like Lexicon have brilliant PC softs for sale, and in their case charge a lot of money for them.

Anyway, purely guessing: if Access was to jump into the vst fray with both feet, they're not going to be messing around - they'll be reimagining - looking at what they've done to date in total, and planning what could be a very interesting future.

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pdxindy wrote:My guess is that the 'magic' of the Virus is in the hardware and once it was a softsynth it would be competing against the amazing array of soft synths available today.
If you use total integration mode it's fully digital, so a true port should theoretically sound the same.

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I own a PoCo Virus Vst and it's 100% a Virus B. Also i hardly touch the Snow hardware because of the Vst editor.
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db3 wrote:
pdxindy wrote:My guess is that the 'magic' of the Virus is in the hardware and once it was a softsynth it would be competing against the amazing array of soft synths available today.
If you use total integration mode it's fully digital, so a true port should theoretically sound the same.
use can use the TI, with analogue outputs (depending upon your needs) which tends to be what I do, so then the Virus's DAC comes into play still.

but Id say the magic of the hardware, is the interface (Ive a TI keyboard) , as a standalone synth its great and whilst there are menus, they are pretty minimal, most things are hands-on, I hardly use the VST, so easy to use the panel.I also use it as an FX unit too for other hardware (as I quite like its built-in effects) when Ive not got the Mac on. Its a pretty versatile bit of hardware. (not bad as a controller either ;))

personally, Ive no idea why you would try to emulate a Virus, just use whatever tools you have to create sounds. the only exception I can see, is if your doing a cover, and even then many things once in a mix will be close enough. (if not, get a virus ;))

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murnau wrote:I own a PoCo Virus Vst and it's 100% a Virus B. Also i hardly touch the Snow hardware because of the Vst editor.
The PoCo only works in 32-bit hosts though, right? i was on the fence of buying one once, but then i decided against it, because it's discontinued hardware, and 32-bit only. I would like to have the wavetable, and hypersaw stuff of the newer Viruses anyway i guess.

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chk071 wrote:
murnau wrote:I own a PoCo Virus Vst and it's 100% a Virus B. Also i hardly touch the Snow hardware because of the Vst editor.
The PoCo only works in 32-bit hosts though, right? i was on the fence of buying one once, but then i decided against it, because it's discontinued hardware, and 32-bit only. I would like to have the wavetable, and hypersaw stuff of the newer Viruses anyway i guess.
No, The PowerCore software contains 64bit driver for 64bit OS but the plug-in binaries are 32-bit only so bridging is necessary. As said the PoCo is Virus B not TI of course. It works great and if someone need the classic Virus sound it's sure an option.
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Alright. Well, maybe i will end up buying one one day then. :) Seems pretty affordable too.

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If you want a Virus then buy a Virus. But if crispy clean high end is enough, Sches Diversion is pretty kickass.

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The only real thing that i miss is the use of the mod matrix. There is until today no VST - Midicontroller combination which can replace that workflow.

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Zebra is the one to go for none will sound exactly like a Virus though. Zebra is getting a new version but it could be more than a year away. u-he DIVA has my favourite supersaw oscillators.

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Lejurai wrote: But if crispy clean high end is enough, Sches Diversion is pretty kickass.
If anything, the high end of Virus is far from clean, but it is dirty in a good way. The whole sound of Virus may be characterized as punchy, raw and gritty, but very alive/musical. Among the softsynths having similar quailities I can name Sylenth, Diva and Z3ta, but Diva has more polished analogue-like sound. Massive and Spire can also approximate certain sounds from Virus (Massive - distorted wavetable sounds, Spire - simple VA patches and also patches with heavy use of phaser or vowel filter, though Spire generally sounds thinner, cleaner and has different envelope behaviour).

If someone is curious, here is a couple of psytrance tracks made almost 100% with Virus.

https://soundcloud.com/recursion-loop/mothers-womb

https://soundcloud.com/recursion-loop/genetic-prank

I wonder what kind of music are the people, who claim to have replaced Virus with Zebra, are making. I guess, it must be mostly something like ambient, Berlin school or IDM/experimental? Definitely not psy/goa or normal trance and not DnB.
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For Trance the Virus is often the only hardware synth people are still using besides plugins. In other styles I have not seen it so often this days.
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recursive one wrote:
Lejurai wrote: But if crispy clean high end is enough, Sches Diversion is pretty kickass.
If anything, the high end of Virus is far from clean, but it is dirty in a good way. The whole sound of Virus may be characterized as punchy, raw and gritty, but very alive/musical. Among the softsynths having similar quailities I can name Sylenth, Diva and Z3ta, but Diva has more polished analogue-like sound. Massive and Spire can also approximate certain sounds from Virus (Massive - distorted wavetable sounds, Spire - simple VA patches and also patches with heavy use of phaser or vowel filter, though Spire generally sounds thinner, cleaner and has different envelope behaviour).

If someone is curious, here is a couple of psytrance tracks made almost 100% with Virus.

https://soundcloud.com/recursion-loop/mothers-womb

https://soundcloud.com/recursion-loop/genetic-prank

I wonder what kind of music are the people, who claim to have replaced Virus with Zebra, are making. I guess, it must be mostly something like ambient, Berlin school or IDM/experimental? Definitely not psy/goa or normal trance and not DnB.
Did you produce those tunes? If so, well done, they are great :)

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soundpalace wrote: Did you produce those tunes? If so, well done, they are great :)
Yes, these tracks are mine, thanks :)
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