+1ThomasHelzle wrote:I can highly recommend Bitwig Studio and it's sandboxing feature for testing this rather crashy synth.
The days of plugins bringing down the daw are over
I went ableton in 2001 until version 8 and then gave up on the updates. I gave that company thousands and they wanted me to keep buying in, and it seemed to be getting more and more bugs as the updates kept coming, and I got really tired of the round and round loop aspect of music. Ableton+beatport really did a number on music. Reaper is one of the most stable DAWS I've ever used and the developer keeps the updates coming tirelessly and it has more of an old school track recording feel to it. The menu diving and amount of options to file through is daunting though and I still find myself unable to to find what I want at times a year after diving in. all I really need is a great multitracker. I can go modular and start nesting with bidule. I still only use a third of bidules ability though. I don't like the available oscillators and filters much, they are just off the shelf stock, but love all the tools available to me in that case.ThomasHelzle wrote:The only way I found to remove wires is to click on the input connector-dot they are connected to and then click the trashcan icon in the inspector GUI. Neither the fading in "X" nor the right mouse menu works here.
But don't click on the output connector dots, that crashes the plugin if you don't drag a wire.
Cheers,
Tom
(I can't comment on Reaper, it never was a host I was able to enjoy working with).
Though Live does suggest that kind of loop construction for music, it's easy enough to avoid. The only time I use clips is for automation and then the clips are usually like 20 bars or more.Dasheesh wrote:I went ableton in 2001 until version 8 and then gave up on the updates. I gave that company thousands and they wanted me to keep buying in, and it seemed to be getting more and more bugs as the updates kept coming, and I got really tired of the round and round loop aspect of music. Ableton+beatport really did a number on music. Reaper is one of the most stable DAWS I've ever used and the developer keeps the updates coming tirelessly and it has more of an old school track recording feel to it. The menu diving and amount of options to file through is daunting though and I still find myself unable to to find what I want at times a year after diving in. all I really need is a great multitracker. I can go modular and start nesting with bidule. I still only use a third of bidules ability though. I don't like the available oscillators and filters much, they are just off the shelf stock, but love all the tools available to me in that case.ThomasHelzle wrote:The only way I found to remove wires is to click on the input connector-dot they are connected to and then click the trashcan icon in the inspector GUI. Neither the fading in "X" nor the right mouse menu works here.
But don't click on the output connector dots, that crashes the plugin if you don't drag a wire.
Cheers,
Tom
(I can't comment on Reaper, it never was a host I was able to enjoy working with).

Cool didn't know it had that featureEvilDragon wrote:Reaper did that before a single line of Bitwig was ever written...
There has been this whole industry built around lowest common denominator and I understand that. People are trying to put food on the table and make a dollar and that means you have to involve yourself in a certain crowd. People were too busy trying to live after the recession hit to care about music. I miss the max msp days though. I had huge respect for those guys. It was too advanced for me and more than I ever needed but those guys were very bright and really introduced the world to what laptop music was. Programming max msp was like creating a nuke though. It was more involved than I ever cared to be with a computer TBH. Those guys did NOTHING but program max msp all night long. I know that eventually ableton picked it up, great for cycling 74, but it killed it . Basically it got reduced to lowest common denominator like everything else. I still listen to those old max sets though. There was a time that San Francisco and Montreal were on top of the world. Hawtin is the devil man. He saw it from a business point of view, took advantage of it. Made his money and ran. Left everyone standing in a corner picking their nose.zerocrossing wrote:Though Live does suggest that kind of loop construction for music, it's easy enough to avoid. The only time I use clips is for automation and then the clips are usually like 20 bars or more.Dasheesh wrote:I went ableton in 2001 until version 8 and then gave up on the updates. I gave that company thousands and they wanted me to keep buying in, and it seemed to be getting more and more bugs as the updates kept coming, and I got really tired of the round and round loop aspect of music. Ableton+beatport really did a number on music. Reaper is one of the most stable DAWS I've ever used and the developer keeps the updates coming tirelessly and it has more of an old school track recording feel to it. The menu diving and amount of options to file through is daunting though and I still find myself unable to to find what I want at times a year after diving in. all I really need is a great multitracker. I can go modular and start nesting with bidule. I still only use a third of bidules ability though. I don't like the available oscillators and filters much, they are just off the shelf stock, but love all the tools available to me in that case.ThomasHelzle wrote:The only way I found to remove wires is to click on the input connector-dot they are connected to and then click the trashcan icon in the inspector GUI. Neither the fading in "X" nor the right mouse menu works here.
But don't click on the output connector dots, that crashes the plugin if you don't drag a wire.
Cheers,
Tom
(I can't comment on Reaper, it never was a host I was able to enjoy working with).
There are so many skins for reaper you can make it look like anything you want it to be. Logic, pro tools, anything.WXLF wrote:Hello widdershins, just downloaded the demo and it crashes every time i drag a wire with the synth preview button enabled.
Yosemite 10.10.5
Macbook Retina (Mid 2012)
Also this may be an ignorant question, but why don't the parameters show up on the device panel like other VST's? (in bitwig studio)
Anyway, this synth looks really fun. I will definitely purchase it when it becomes stable on my system.
Cool didn't know it had that featureEvilDragon wrote:Reaper did that before a single line of Bitwig was ever written...Honestly, i never looked much into reaper simply because of it's aesthetic appearance.. which may sound silly to some
Where is the option for this,I asked someone before but was told there is no sandboxing in reaperEvilDragon wrote:Reaper did that before a single line of Bitwig was ever written...
I've read about an option to run plugins in "buggy mode" which will not crash reaper but it's one of those things buried in menus. I'll have to find it.ere2learn wrote:Where is the option for this,I asked someone before but was told there is no sandboxing in reaperEvilDragon wrote:Reaper did that before a single line of Bitwig was ever written...
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