Hive 2.X Feature Requests

[Touch The Universe]

Was there a way to import standard .wav files in hive. I thought this was the case at some point.

[Urs]

Was there a way to import standard .wav files in hive. I thought this was the case at some point.

You can import .wav files that contain wavetables.

We are working on a technology to convert tonal samples to wavetables automatically.

[Double Tap]

I'd like the LFO's in time base to be as fast as sync -

1/64th with rate at +5 and project tempo at 135 is much faster than 0.1s and rate at 5

I'd like 0.1s and rate at 5 to be as fast as 1/64 and rate at 5

I have a bunch of presets using the LFO to modulate cutoff and it sounds different at different tempos. Being able to set 0.1s to the same speed would resolve that.

Here's the thing... LFO rate is 2^x. So at +5, it is simply 32x faster (0=1, 1= 2... ...4 ...8 ...16 ...32). At 120 bpm (correct me if I'm wrong) a 1/64th takes 1/128 of a second, which makes it about 12 times as fast as 0.1s

Anyhow... we'd need a "Bazille-Mode" for Hive for any proper audio rate modulation that deserves the name. But as you know, Bazille's strengths are paid for by less flexible modulation options. Hive's weakness affords its great modulations. I know that it would be desirable to combine both strengths - without any drawbacks -, but I'm afraid that that's no easily achieved...

Is that the way you conceive of your synths then, with something like an overall CPU/processing budget and then you work out how to allocate that between sound quality and complexity, modulation, filtering, visualisation, and… what else? Routing options?

[Urs]

Is that the way you conceive of your synths then, with something like an overall CPU/processing budget and then you work out how to allocate that between sound quality and complexity, modulation, filtering, visualisation, and… what else? Routing options?

We don't really start out with these terms. We start out with a set of ideas of what a synth should be, and then we implement the DSP for it. If it's doable, the rest follows.

It is however very common to distinguish between an audio rate and a control rate in music software. So we have a codebase that is shared among all our plug-ins that offers an infrastructure into which we can plug the DSP code. This framework can be configured in various parameters, but one parameter that is a given is that the maximum control rate for modulation is 1/4 of the audio rate. Which is sufficient for almost every task, except for, well, audio rate modulation at the quality level that ACE, Bazille, Repro or Diva offer. The audio rate modulation in those is implemented as actual audio streams.

The way those modulations work require a lot of extra CPU, which is why some of our plug-ins have quality modes. Such that, if audio rate modulation is not necessary, the modulation can run at lower rates.

Hive of course was designed to be a low CPU synth, and thus it does not offer full scale audio rate modulation. Hive came about as a result of experiments to create the fastest possible unison oscillator, while the goal of later updates was the fastest possible wavetable extension to it.

[reppinghades]

Would like to see a sidechain invert button in the mod matrix. I was trying to make the LFO start modulating the filter as soon as the keys were unpressed by setting the secondary source as LFO but since inverting sidechain is not yet on it, I couldn't do it.

Also, Urs please consider adding a set as default preset option to all u-he synths and effects. So, when the plugin is opened or when its initialized, it loads the selected preset. At the moment the only two synths that that I know which has this option is Vital and Surge. Such a nifty feature. Locking the parameters is what I do right now.

[pdxindy]

Also, Urs please consider adding a set as default preset option to all u-he synths and effects. So, when the plugin is opened or when its initialized, it loads the selected preset. At the moment the only two synths that that I know which has this option is Vital and Surge. Such a nifty feature. Locking the parameters is what I do right now.

I don't know other DAW's... but in Bitwig, I can set every 3rd party plugin to open in the state I want. Maybe your DAW can do the same?

[DoktorTenma]

Also, Urs please consider adding a set as default preset option to all u-he synths and effects. So, when the plugin is opened or when its initialized, it loads the selected preset. At the moment the only two synths that that I know which has this option is Vital and Surge. Such a nifty feature. Locking the parameters is what I do right now.

From page 11 in the Hive User Guide:

Default preset
Whenever Hive is started it checks whether the Local root contains a preset called default. If this file exists, it is loaded instead of the demo preset. Note that default will not appear in the browser.

If you want Hive to start with a simple template every time instead of the default preset, do this: Right-click on the data display, select init (initialize) and make any minor adjustments you like. Make sure that the preference Save Presets To is set to ‘selected folder’ and that the ‘Local’ root directory is currently open. Finally, [Save] your preset under the name default.


[reppinghades]

Also, Urs please consider adding a set as default preset option to all u-he synths and effects. So, when the plugin is opened or when its initialized, it loads the selected preset. At the moment the only two synths that that I know which has this option is Vital and Surge. Such a nifty feature. Locking the parameters is what I do right now.

I don't know other DAW's... but in Bitwig, I can set every 3rd party plugin to open in the state I want. Maybe your DAW can do the same?

Yep. These days what I do with most plugins is I would make the necessary changes and use the save as preset button in Ableton's plugin window and favorite it.

[reppinghades]

From page 11 in the Hive User Guide:

Default preset
Whenever Hive is started it checks whether the Local root contains a preset called default. If this file exists, it is loaded instead of the demo preset. Note that default will not appear in the browser.

If you want Hive to start with a simple template every time instead of the default preset, do this: Right-click on the data display, select init (initialize) and make any minor adjustments you like. Make sure that the preference Save Presets To is set to ‘selected folder’ and that the ‘Local’ root directory is currently open. Finally, [Save] your preset under the name default.


I am aware of this and this is what I've been doing for a really long time but save as default preset in the other two synths makes it even more convenient. It not only changes the default preset when the plugin loads, it also changes the default state to whatever you want when the synth is initialized. Just something so minor but still really useful.

[Viktor [TUC]]

What other default state are you looking for that's not saved in the new default preset or handled by the preferences section where you can define GUI size etc.?

[reppinghades]

What other default state are you looking for that's not saved in the new default preset or handled by the preferences section where you can define GUI size etc.?

I like having the global tune (transpose) at 0, the filter 1 volume at 50% etc. If I click init, those two would change to -12 and 100%. I don't remember if it was Repro or Ace, which has both the oscillator's volume up and I would have to turn down one every time. It would've been a workflow improvement where I wouldn't have to change parameters to the desired value every single time if "set as default preset" was available. I'm using the parameter lock as workaround, atm.

I don't know how much work it would take to implement it but it would be nice to have it on u-he synths. The sidechain invert feature should be given more priority, that's something I really miss while using hive.

[Viktor [TUC]]

Ah I see, thanks, I overlooked the part where you said you'd prefer to have this in the "init" as well. Now I know what you mean.

[pocvecem]

In any of my synths - both soft- and hardware - I save my own init patches e.g. with predefined modulation routings. In my softsynths I also make a folder named "Templates" with some pre-built basic sounds like "wavetable template, pad template, percussion template, ...".

Nothing easier than this.

[reppinghades]

In any of my synths - both soft- and hardware - I save my own init patches e.g. with predefined modulation routings. In my softsynths I also make a folder named "Templates" with some pre-built basic sounds like "wavetable template, pad template, percussion template, ...".

Nothing easier than this.

This would require less mouse clicks. Customize the synth just the way you want it and set it as default and done. Every time you click init, it loads to the state you saved.

[Urs]

I like the idea. I did think we had that with a preset called "initialise.h2p", but apparently that wasn't implemented yet. I think we'll make a ticket for this and have a look at the options one day. Can't say when.