Is Serum worth cashing out for, when you get Vital for free?
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- KVRist
- 72 posts since 17 Nov, 2021
Seriously, Serum is a beast. Best advice I can give you is to do some searches on YT for "[Your favorite genre] Serum Banks" just to see what the vst is capable of. Then compare that to Vital's. I'm telling you it's in my top 3, merely for the rich, powerful, and clear sound.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 19 Sep, 2017 from The Future
Yep agree that one 'right' synth can do for your mix more than 20 'wrong',if you need specific sound this exact synth produce,but Serum and Vital despite advanced options miss mojo some old school synths like V-Station,Sylenth1,so on have,adding their unique vibe and character.ckoe wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:18 pm Yes the price for Serum is high(it should cost around 100EUR), I only bought it with rent to own on splice. Vital and also Phase Plant can't give me the sound I get out of the box on Serum in 5 seconds, cause the Filters and FX in Serum sounds soo good and punchy etc. I love to bought one right synth than ten synths with medium filters. Serum is like Fabfilters Q3 in my opinion, all the alternatives are ok but if you start Farbfilter the heart will go on, same with Serum.
But hey for a freeware Synth is Vital a no brainer and my first choice if I had not Serum.
Some free synths like synth1 have it too.
Would buy Serum if see it around 60-70 euro
Don't need it in my mix,but could use it somewhere,not big fan of all this cold mechanical soulless sound lately every kid do,isn't exactly impressive neither from sound design point nor as usability.
Try to make a song only with wow sounds,it doesn't sound as music at all.
Just saying...
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 1631 posts since 10 Oct, 2018
Well, first of all, I don't use Vital or Serum, but I noticed there's a boatload of instructive vids at YT about Serum.
PS there are some weird people hanging around here, but consider this: one must be at least a little weird to go into audio production. Trust me, usually it helps
PS there are some weird people hanging around here, but consider this: one must be at least a little weird to go into audio production. Trust me, usually it helps
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- KVRian
- 614 posts since 26 Jun, 2016
Serum > Vital even if it is free.
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- KVRian
- 614 posts since 26 Jun, 2016
Sylenth1 somehow lost its mojo at least in my ears... all in the name of "cleaner this and cleaner that". And Lennard will not send me an older installer. -_-VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:49 amYep agree that one 'right' synth can do for your mix more than 20 'wrong',if you need specific sound this exact synth produce,but Serum and Vital despite advanced options miss mojo some old school synths like V-Station,Sylenth1,so on have,adding their unique vibe and character.ckoe wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:18 pm Yes the price for Serum is high(it should cost around 100EUR), I only bought it with rent to own on splice. Vital and also Phase Plant can't give me the sound I get out of the box on Serum in 5 seconds, cause the Filters and FX in Serum sounds soo good and punchy etc. I love to bought one right synth than ten synths with medium filters. Serum is like Fabfilters Q3 in my opinion, all the alternatives are ok but if you start Farbfilter the heart will go on, same with Serum.
But hey for a freeware Synth is Vital a no brainer and my first choice if I had not Serum.
Some free synths like synth1 have it too.
Would buy Serum if see it around 60-70 euro
Don't need it in my mix,but could use it somewhere,not big fan of all this cold mechanical soulless sound lately every kid do,isn't exactly impressive neither from sound design point nor as usability.
Try to make a song only with wow sounds,it doesn't sound as music at all.
Just saying...
Cheers![]()
- KVRAF
- 2990 posts since 31 Jan, 2020
I agree.AugusteBeagle wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:27 pm Either way, probably a good idea to get it on Splice through rent to own
It doesn't seem expensive when bought this way.
- KVRist
- 36 posts since 3 Sep, 2021
They are quite similar. Get some unique synth of type you don't have any yet. Tracktion sells pretty unique synths - Hyperion, WaveRazor, F'em, Biotek 2.
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- KVRist
- 218 posts since 26 Sep, 2017 from Berlin
Yepp, and you can pay the rest when ever you want, or can stop rent to own and continue few month later, it does not matter.Spring Goose wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:28 pmI agree.AugusteBeagle wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:27 pm Either way, probably a good idea to get it on Splice through rent to own
It doesn't seem expensive when bought this way.
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- KVRer
- 17 posts since 18 Feb, 2020
If you create wavetables for yourself, the toolset on offer in Serum is the best out there IMHO. Vital has some intersting stuff but for a comprehensive set of wavetable editing, managing and exporting options, Serum is worth the asking price for those tools alone.
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- KVRAF
- 12081 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Pigments for 99 with 3 free soundpacks at the moment and 3.5 was a great update. If I could only have 1 WT synths it would be Pigments.
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- KVRAF
- 2293 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London
v2 will be a free upgrade for existing v1 userskobal wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:42 pm if you enjoy using serum yes it worth it.. simple as that . i m not sure but upgrade may be free if a v2 is made one day
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 693 posts since 18 Apr, 2021
I agree with you as in it being the best wavetable synth, but it doesn't have a wavetable editor, unless they included one in 3.5 which I haven't had a look at yet, even Vital has a wavetable editorSLiC wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:55 pm Pigments for 99 with 3 free soundpacks at the moment and 3.5 was a great update. If I could only have 1 WT synths it would be Pigments.
The wavetable editor in Serum is the most advanced and most user friendly I have seen so far, a tad expensive to pay $200 for just the wavetable editor though, don't know why anyone hasn't come up with an alternative. Node isn't even as advanced as the Vital wavetable editor
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- KVRian
- 758 posts since 29 Jun, 2009
Here not much "wow" sounds and a very good music production individual.VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:49 am Don't need it in my mix,but could use it somewhere,not big fan of all this cold mechanical soulless sound lately every kid do,isn't exactly impressive neither from sound design point nor as usability.
Try to make a song only with wow sounds,it doesn't sound as music at all.
Just saying...
Cheers![]()
He mostly uses Serum and Diva and lately Vital as well.
The whole track with Serum.
Track mostly with Vital
Got some good preset banks from him for Serum and Vital.
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