Too costly to upgrade

[D.K Envelope]

Bitwig have a great pricing
is not a sub you can upgraade whenever you want plus you get 1 year updates free

so you can pause and keep the version
i found it really great

[starflakeprj]

It is a 1y support subscription, isn't it?

[pdxindy]

It is a 1y support subscription, isn't it?

Depends on how one defines subscription. I think of subscription as something you have to pay every month or you lose the use of it. By that definition, Bitwig is not subscription.

[antic604]

It is a 1y support subscription, isn't it?

No. If you let your Upgrade Plan lapse you're staying on a version that you have (+get small bug fixes, e.g. for current v4.0 you'll get all v.4.0.x updates). You can then wait however long you need and only buy new Upgrade Plan once the amount of new features added justifies the cost (usually $100-120 on sale via JRR or Audiodeluxe) + you get 12 months of "free" upgrades from the moment you register the code in your account. Which also means you can buy Upgrade Plan on sale and keep it for the future, if you have some extra cash or are afraid they'll go up in price.

Rinse & repeat.

In contrast, when you stop paying for Reason+ or Presonus Sphere all you're left with is project files you can't open anymore and memories of fun time you had with those DAWs

[pdxindy]

In contrast, when you stop paying for Reason+ or Presonus Sphere all you're left with is project files you can't open anymore and memories of fun time you had with those DAWs

That is assuming someone had fun times with them

[antic604]

In contrast, when you stop paying for Reason+ or Presonus Sphere all you're left with is project files you can't open anymore and memories of fun time you had with those DAWs

That is assuming someone had fun times with them

Fair point

[starflakeprj]

It is a 1y support subscription, isn't it?

Depends on how one defines subscription. I think of subscription as something you have to pay every month or you lose the use of it. By that definition, Bitwig is not subscription.

So, I have HBO Max, I have always paid for it monthly, which is a subscription. But I was offered to pay for it for a year instead, by your definition, it's no longer a subscription?

I didn't say Bitwig was a subscription, I said the support was a subscription.

I work with cyber security, and primarily with two vendors. They both offer one or multi year subscriptions on their services and support.

[pdxindy]

It is a 1y support subscription, isn't it?

Depends on how one defines subscription. I think of subscription as something you have to pay every month or you lose the use of it. By that definition, Bitwig is not subscription.

So, I have HBO Max, I have always paid for it monthly, which is a subscription. But I was offered to pay for it for a year instead, by your definition, it's no longer a subscription?

I didn't say Bitwig was a subscription, I said the support was a subscription.

I work with cyber security, and primarily with two vendors. They both offer one or multi year subscriptions on their services and support.

It is still a subscription by my definition. I was lazy to type out the various permutations. Whether monthly or annually, the main point is it stops working if you stop paying.

I think you still get support from Bitwig even with an older version. So Bitwig support is not a subscription the way various companies do it.

[starflakeprj]

It is a 1y support subscription, isn't it?

Depends on how one defines subscription. I think of subscription as something you have to pay every month or you lose the use of it. By that definition, Bitwig is not subscription.

So, I have HBO Max, I have always paid for it monthly, which is a subscription. But I was offered to pay for it for a year instead, by your definition, it's no longer a subscription?

I didn't say Bitwig was a subscription, I said the support was a subscription.

I work with cyber security, and primarily with two vendors. They both offer one or multi year subscriptions on their services and support.

It is still a subscription by my definition. I was lazy to type out the various permutations. Whether monthly or annually, the main point is it stops working if you stop paying.

I think you still get support from Bitwig even with an older version. So Bitwig support is not a subscription the way various companies do it.

Ok, you can't run from this one. It's an update subscription

[pdxindy]

Ok, you can't run from this one. It's an update subscription

Ok... I'll defer to your obvious enthusiasm

[starflakeprj]

Ok, you can't run from this one. It's an update subscription

Ok... I'll defer to your obvious enthusiasm

Yaaaay!

[antic604]

Ok, you can't run from this one. It's an update subscription

By that definition any DAW, except for FL and maybe Logic, is an "update subscription"

[starflakeprj]

Ok, you can't run from this one. It's an update subscription

By that definition any DAW, except for FL and maybe Logic, is an "update subscription"

I can live with that

[Tj Shredder]

A subscription you would have to cancel, as it renews automatically. This is not the case with Bitwig. If you don‘t go to the Kiosk and buy the new issue, you are left to read the old ones…
Its a BUP…. Similar to WUP…

[antic604]

A subscription you would have to cancel, as it renews automatically. This is not the case with Bitwig. If you don‘t go to the Kiosk and buy the new issue, you are left to read the old ones…
Its a BUP…. Similar to WUP…

That's probably the weakes argument for why it's NOT a subscription, especially because - if I'm not mistaken - if you buy the Upgrade Plan from Bitwig directly there's an option you can choose to authomatically renew it once it lapses