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grandmasterbird · Post by **grandmasterbird** » Tue Jun 30, 2026 11:26 am

I must admit I've never tried Phosycon as I've always used ABL, but if they're both considered very good emulations then surely there can't be a huge difference in sound between the two? I know the obvious would be to demo phosycon but just curious to hear what others think?

Almondo · Post by **Almondo** » Tue Jun 30, 2026 11:53 am

grandmasterbird wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 11:26 am I must admit I've never tried Phosycon as I've always used ABL, but if they're both considered very good emulations then surely there can't be a huge difference in sound between the two? I know the obvious would be to demo phosycon but just curious to hear what others think?

I find with 303 vsts a lot of the core sound deficiencies are masked with layers of effects, so whenever I try them out I always remove all effects and see how close they are to what I remember from the late 80s. I remember trying that with Acid V, absolutely nothing like the original sound. Phoscyon 2 to me is as close as it gets so I went with that, plus the extra features are very good.

To add, I found ABL without effects lacking the necessary girth to be an authentic 303 emulation, just sounded a touch flat and lacking oomph, but to be fair it's now a comparison with a 10 year old vst to something much more recent. But horses for courses.

george · Post by **george** » Tue Jun 30, 2026 5:03 pm

Almondo wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 11:53 am To add, I found ABL without effects lacking the necessary girth to be an authentic 303 emulation, just sounded a touch flat and lacking oomph, but to be fair it's now a comparison with a 10 year old vst to something much more recent. But horses for courses.

ABL3 has received several updates with new 303 models. Is the issue of a flat and lack of punch affecting all models for you? I'm using Model 3, VCO Model 1, VCA Clicks with an output limiter and DC filter. Sounds good.

Architeuthis · Post by **Architeuthis** » Tue Jun 30, 2026 6:58 pm

* adding Robin Schmidt TB303 to my library with his permission.
* also will be designing my own TB303 inspired filter at some point.
* but in general all my filters are very screamy, growly, warm.
* coming soon to audio plugin world. http://soundemote.io/sandbox ← work in progress

Almondo · Post by **Almondo** » Tue Jun 30, 2026 7:03 pm

george wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 5:03 pm
Almondo wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 11:53 am To add, I found ABL without effects lacking the necessary girth to be an authentic 303 emulation, just sounded a touch flat and lacking oomph, but to be fair it's now a comparison with a 10 year old vst to something much more recent. But horses for courses.
ABL3 has received several updates with new 303 models. Is the issue of a flat and lack of punch affecting all models for you? I'm using Model 3, VCO Model 1, VCA Clicks with an output limiter and DC filter. Sounds good.

OK cool, maybe I should give it another try, didn't realise it was still being updated

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