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FaX · Post by **FaX** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:35 am

Sinelife wrote:Mackie

Its better to spend money on controlers, masterkeyboards, mics, mix.

Recently Ive been thinking about Live4.
Ive been very close to buy it (discount50%due to Quatafire).

In fact they offer good quality effects, but the VST implement is horrible (for freeVSTs witch ive tested).

Finaly ive havent do that.Ive found EnergyXT.

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Every free VST I use in LIVE works fine .
And what is so horrible about drag - drop - arm track - play - record - automate clip envelopes etc etc ..
Every single VSTi I listed further up from this post is 100% stable in Live 4 !!!!!!!!!!

nool · Post by **nool** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:10 am

interesting thread

tomg · Post by **tomg** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:54 am

Computer Music says that you can make music with the "Studio" that comes "free" with every mag. Anybody up to the challenge? How many can actually make a tune with the CM "Studio"??

Peace
Tom

androidlove · Post by **androidlove** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:22 am

I use CMuzys all the time. I love it for MIDI ( when it doesn't malfunction ). I don't use the VST's that come with it. However, there's everything one needs on the disk.

SampleScience · Post by **SampleScience** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:52 pm

BONES wrote:How you can think that songs with tempos ranging from 88 to 160 BPM can possibly sound the same is beyond me.

Bones, changing the bpm doesn't affect the sounds,it just change the tempo.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:19 pm

BONES wrote:
EDIT:
fractalism, having listened to the mind-numbingly boring mp3's that you put up on 26 Aug 04, I think you've got a damned hide to accuse anyone else of having a samey sound. You may use a few different sounds bu tthe feel is almost identical in all of them. Maybe it just shows how little you get from music?

ehhmmm... how on earth do you feel that Ambient breaks and progressive house/trance sound the same...I think you should visit www.dancetech.com/~mindless and check out my tracks...or better yet, listen to them here:

Vertical Flip
http://www.dancetech.com/users/streamer ... ck_id=5874

Essential Desire edit 1
http://www.dancetech.com/users/streamer ... ck_id=4547

Dig This
http://www.dancetech.com/users/streamer ... ck_id=4770

mauseoleum · Post by **mauseoleum** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:26 pm

done quite some commercial clips (for multimedia), also longer songs presented at art festivals. I also use commercial software. it's true what they say.

also it's good for betatesting because (if things go Murphy route) it crashes gracefully - some other apps often require system reboot to continue working properly.

tomg wrote:Computer Music says that you can make music with the "Studio" that comes "free" with every mag. Anybody up to the challenge? How many can actually make a tune with the CM "Studio"??

Peace
Tom

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:05 pm

SampleScience wrote:Bones, changing the bpm doesn't affect the sounds,it just change the tempo.

But it defintiely changes the mood/feel which is what music is about, not what sounds you use. SkREAMflesh [86] is scary whilst PSYkObomb [160] is aggro, even though they use mostly the same instruments. If we were making dance music, the tracks on our album would be in about 7 different genres.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:17 pm

fractalism wrote:ehhmmm... how on earth do you feel that Ambient breaks and progressive house/trance sound the same...

Because those labels have no meaning to me. The first track has that absurd vocal sample, it goes on forever without anything happenning and ends up sounding exactly like the start of the next track. All your percussion has a similar feel and nothing ever happens in your tunes. They can't hold my interest for more than about 30 seconds - its just "la-la la-la... can I go home now?" pub-static. No emotion. No feeling. Just a big, fat, boring yawn. Even Suicide Commando has a bigger range than you. [That's an insult BTW.]

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:42 pm

ah...getting angry are we BONES?..I do think that you like my stuff and just won't admit it..the more tracks you hear from me, the more agressive you get...classic syndrome of jealousy...Anyways, I have been getting very positive comments from complete strangers about my wide range of sound...I make everything from moviescores to "pop" (only when I have to) and cuttingedge electronica...I don't like your music and that's my opinion...get on with your life and be happy...

Kim Lajoie · Post by **Kim Lajoie** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:58 pm

fractalism wrote:I do think that you like my stuff and just won't admit it..the more tracks you hear from me, the more agressive you get...classic syndrome of jealousy...

Forever,

Kim.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:30 am

fractalism wrote:I don't like your music and that's my opinion...get on with your life and be happy...

Like I said, that's perfectly fine with me. In fact, having listened to your mindless drivel, it pleases me greatly. I just object to your ridiculous accusation as to the narrow range of styles presented.

Just for the record, here's what someone who actually knows about EBM had to say in a review:
"it seems to cover the entire EBM spectrum except the ones that are already done to death making it a good reminder of the glory days of when EBM was still hard and aggresive."
Full review here.

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:05 am

BONES wrote:The only thing I'd miss are those sweet, sweet filters in WaspXT.

Hey Bones - can you do me a favour and check out ASynth and Augur.

I'm interested in your opinion of the filter used on them and whether they represent a viable alternative to WaspXT at all.

They're obviously different synths, particularly Augur. But I'm just curious because you love the filter in WaspXT so much whether these two have a standing in this area.

Caleb

drez · Post by **drez** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:48 am

BONES wrote: Just for the record, here's what someone who actually knows about EBM had to say in a review:
"it seems to cover the entire EBM spectrum except the ones that are already done to death making it a good reminder of the glory days of when EBM was still hard and aggresive."
Full review here.

It also says "...this album fails on originality..."

VicDiesel · Post by **VicDiesel** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:16 am

fractalism wrote:Vertical Flip
http://www.dancetech.com/users/streamer ... ck_id=5874

Essential Desire edit 1
http://www.dancetech.com/users/streamer ... ck_id=4547

Dig This
http://www.dancetech.com/users/streamer ... ck_id=4770

Ok, that's three tracks in one genre.

Now please some tracks in the other genres that you do

V.

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