New T2 Stuff!

[headquest]

Pretty much, yeah.

I use a lot of sub-groups however, often ending up with a whole mix grouped down to eg: "Drums n Bass" and "Everything Else". so sometimes I freeze "Everything Else" while working on drums & vice versa..

What do you mean by "sub-groups" in this context?

[lalo]

i never use freeze,

i always use render, but RENDER AND ADD, and i mute/disable the source track. i label my source tracks with a 'SRC' suffix, and shrink them down so they don't take up so much screen space, and plonk them at the bottom of the track view.

that way, i can just expand it and reactivate it if i want to do more with the original stuff, and i am also able to operate on the rendered wav file with standard audio editing style (and putting filters on individual clips cut out from it, which isn't possible in freeze or the original, depending on what form it took and how many plugins were on that track)

That's a clever solution . I'm going to try it out!

But it needs a ton of mouse and keyboard moving ..
i used to do such things before the 'freeze era' in other hosts..such a pain in the ass when your song is getting complex track/routing-wise.
so what i think about freeze :
it's nice!! let's turn it in a 'complete' and flexible feature..after all Tracktion is about flexibility and easy workflow..isn't it ?

lalo

[jtxx000]

i never use freeze,

i always use render, but RENDER AND ADD, and i mute/disable the source track. i label my source tracks with a 'SRC' suffix, and shrink them down so they don't take up so much screen space, and plonk them at the bottom of the track view.

that way, i can just expand it and reactivate it if i want to do more with the original stuff, and i am also able to operate on the rendered wav file with standard audio editing style (and putting filters on individual clips cut out from it, which isn't possible in freeze or the original, depending on what form it took and how many plugins were on that track)

This is pretty much what I do except I copy the original track to a new edit so it doesn't take up screen space or ram.

[headquest]

Is there any way to batch process the rendering of the individual tracks?

And does anyone here mix the rendered tracks in a different environment, such as Audition?

[IIRs]

what do you mean by "sub-groups" in this context?

simply routing groups of tracks to other tracks.

eg: I might have 8 tracks of drums which are all routed to another track called "Drum Grp".

I might have 3 tracks of bass, all routed to a "Bass Grp" track.

In most hosts that's about as far as it goes, but Tracktion lets me route "Drum Grp" and "Bass Grp" to yet another track called "Drums'n'Bass" if thats what I want (and frequently it is..)

[djsubject]

Is there any way to batch process the rendering of the individual tracks?

And does anyone here mix the rendered tracks in a different environment, such as Audition?

im shure its in T2 allready


& i normaly bounce traks from logic to mix in T

[tinkat69]

Quicktime incorporation is great news -'the' open, crossplatform standard.
I use it without problems on mac & pc (xp) and if you get the incredibly cheap QTpro upgrade, you'll be able to combine your T2 audio with the vid and export using a variety of codecs inc mpeg 4.

The improved summing has been rather overlooked but this will be a significant improvement over T1 particularly for those who also mix within Tracktion.

Anyone know if the new loop recording allows monitoring of previous takes in order to build up multitracks on the fly?

-john

[SuperFly76]

are there not converters out there to convert the fininshed QT movie to ....well wotever format we want?

i think you misunderstand the situation.

you won't need to convert the finished movie from QT to something else, because you won't be making a movie in tracktion. you'll be making the soundtrack to the QT file in tracktion.

the only conversion you'll need to do is to convert the original movie to QT if it isn't already in that format. when you've finished the soundtrack, you'll mix it with the original 'final' video file.

Haydxn's right!
I have been doing a lot of soundtrack work lately and the video producers usually just want a wav file. Often times the avi or quicktime file that I'm given isn't complete anyway. They usually still need to do some postprocessing (video version of mastering) and final editing to the work. Often I am given a rough version of the video clip to which I compose two or three rough soundtracks. The producer will then tell me which one he likes and any changes in sound or style that he wants. I am then given a more finished video file to which I do a more finalized score. This process can go on and on or be just a one time thing depending on the budjet and time constraints. As Haydxn wrote though, I've never had to MUX the file myself (MUXing is the term for interleaving video and audio). If you want to be able to do this yourself there is a great freeware app called Virtual Dub Mod that will allow you to mux the audio and video. You can get it here: http://virtualdubmod.sourceforge.net/ I use it all the time for home video editing.

[SuperFly76]

I also want to add that I am often given quicktime files to score to. I use XP and have never had a problem playing back the files.

[nuisance sonore]

I also want to add that I am often given quicktime files to score to. I use XP and have never had a problem playing back the files.

Yes, QT is pretty much the de facto standard in the video industry. I must add that yes, older version of QT were a bit buggy on Window and had the despicable habit of grabbing all of the media file type association, even those which it was not able to play back or display properly, but this is a thing of the past now; the newer version is quite stable and configurable as far as file type association goes.
I don't know why they made the Window version so ugly compared to the Mac one though.

[haydxn]

i would like to restate that i am VERY excited about QT support. i'll probably do this again, and perhaps several times a week.

[ModuLR]

I didn't understand what all the grumble was about with regards to QT in the first place. If you are running the latest version it works fine on the PC.

and it definately s the stanard in post production. We export QT all the time from our Avids (both mac and pc). If you want to hand something over for a bit of motion graphics along the lines of After Effects, they will be particularly happy with a QT.

Besides, as mentioned... it's typically only temp. For example in television, ultimately the mix comes back to the editor as a finalized wav/aiff to be reimported into the cut, or it's layed right down to the masters (both a mix and split track version[1]) where the video has already been hi-res'ed or better yet onlined.


[1] a split track making more sense if you are sweetening something that includes dialogue, vo, music, fx.


whoa... rambling... sorry...

[soulata]

OT but

I wish T2'd support REX1&2.

k

[headquest]

OT but

I wish T2'd support REX1&2.

k

And Acid...

Then again, how about Apple Loops

[AD80]

How about a better time-stretch algo. That would be enough for me. I dont care about those other formats.