Vernon Reid Chooses Mackie Tracktion

[jens]

Am I the only one who see it that way?

I know where you're coming from but c'mon:

LC and King's X indeed played a very similar type of style - at least partially!

[Hovmod]

Am I the only one who see it that way?

I know where you're coming from but c'mon:

LC and King's X indeed played a very similar type of style - at least partially!

Yeah - kind of like Miles Davis and Burt Bacharac played similar styles.
Or Segovia and Gypsy Kings. Or Jussi Bjørling and Eros Ramazotti. Or Ramones and Green Day. Or Genesis and Marillion.

But I will give you this: Maybe I just didn't hear them in the right order, or the right setting, or something was wrong with the cover, or a video... It could be that KingsX are the real deal and I'm unfair. But I don't *feel* wrong. And in hind sight none of these bands are that important (unlike Miles, Segovia, Bjørling and Ramones. Genesis weren't either - just for me and my early teens)

[jens]

Am I the only one who see it that way?

I know where you're coming from but c'mon:

LC and King's X indeed played a very similar type of style - at least partially!

Yeah - kind of like Miles Davis and Burt Bacharac played similar styles.
Or Segovia and Gypsy Kings. Or Jussi Bjørling and Eros Ramazotti. Or Ramones and Green Day. Or Genesis and Marillion.

But I will give you this: Maybe I just didn't hear them in the right order, or the right setting, or something was wrong with the cover, or a video... It could be that KingsX are the real deal and I'm unfair. But I don't *feel* wrong. And in hind sight none of these bands are that important (unlike Miles, Segovia, Bjørling and Ramones. Genesis weren't either - just for me and my early teens)

probably you just listened to the wrong songs...

I wrote that I only own one of their albums 'dogman' (1993) which was produced by Brendan O'Brien - you should once listen to that one...

and b.t.w: your 'Genesis is not important'-comment makes me want to kill you now!

(from your timeframe I guess you are referring to the the 80's Genesis - as if that would have been their most relevant days...)

[Hovmod]

Nono - I don't even COUNT Genesis from, oh, ABACAB and those days on. That's a different matter all together. I was talking about old stuff, let's say from the start up to and including Seconds Out, on which I actually tolerate Collins... I love it. It's great. Lamb lies down is excellent. I just got a great boot from 1975 where Gabriel grunts like a wounded animal on The Cage - it's amazing stuff. But not important like Miles or Mozart are important, see. That's what I mean.

Have you read American Psycho? My thoughts about Genesis are pretty much the perfect opposite of Pat Bateman's assessment. I absolutely prefer the wanky lite-prog stuff from the early albums..
But I don't count them as important. For me, yes. Like Pink Floyd. Hugely important to me, but probably not to western civilization
Please don't kill me. I am always trying to evolve, and that includes trying to look critically on your own past...

[stale bread]

shit Living Colour is tight, but BadBrains is on a whole nother level, you can't f**k with 'i against i' the combination of dr.know and hr is just sick sick sick, fishbone weren't/ aren't hard enough to be metal or even metal like but I disagree about their production being weird, imho I thought their production was always very innovative and fresh.
who listened to 24/7 spys, those cats had a darkness to their sound that I really liked
and they grooved like a m/f'er

[mauseoleum]

regarding badbrains I always liked that nasty sub in she's calling you plus I liked their pop one "return to heaven" or what was the title. seen them live quite a while ago but I liked recorded stuff better I liked how drums were recorded.

[larsby]

You huys must seem to have the wrong Idea of Black Metal

Originally from The nordic countries Norway/Sweden and to some extent Finland.

Black as Satanism/devil worshipping/anti christian.

Good examples of Black Metal is:
Venom.
Satyricon. http://www.satyricon.no/mp3/Mother_North.mp3
Abruptum.
Darkthrone.
Dark Funeral.
Cradle of Filth (Although UK based)
Deicide (US based, you should read up on Glenn Benton, he's a piece of work)

(this is not a complete list, by all means, just naming a few)

I listened to some of Living coulour's material at their website. There is no growling. You cannot have blackmetal without growling.

[mauseoleum]

there's a word "COLOUR" in LC name. it says something ...

[Hovmod]

there's a word "COLOUR" in LC name. it says something ...

yeah - I think they were joking, Lars...

[jens]

I listened to some of Living coulour's material at their website. There is no growling. You cannot have blackmetal without growling.

they aren't black?

[paradiddle]

Mmmm Larsby, When they mean black metal, they are
talking about Black musicians playing metal music.

Big fan of fishbone over here!

[GaryG]

there's a word "COLOUR" in LC name. it says something ...

yeah, they're americans who can spell colour correctly!

I must admit i've never heard the term Black Metal used in conjunction with LC, it's always been the dark, growly end of metal to me ('Cradle of Filth'!? panto-metal more like...) Sounds like lazy, unneccessary pigeonholing to me.

.g

[larsby]

I guess my signature served its purpose once again!

MOHAHAHAHAHHA

[rockstar_not]

thats probably why I can't write them.

Just use the Michael Stipe Three Step Program for lyrics construction.

1) Take unrelated subjects - it helps if they share a few common pronouns, but it really isn't essential.

2) Create a bunch of stock cliche lines based on the two subjects, and then tranpose the verbs and articles a little, and jiggle the order around until they sound intelligently meaningless.

3) Contradict yourself a few times for good measure.

HTH.



(with apologies to fans of R.E.M, or pretentious wankers in general).

valley,

This is exactly why I like R.E.M.'s lyrics. Not unlike David Byrne freely admitting that some of his lyrics are there just because he liked the sound of the words against the music - using the words as a tool for music not for message.

One of my favorite R.E.M. songs is Driver 8. Sure, this song even has a bit of a lyrical theme, but the poppy rhyming is relaxing to me - therefore I like.

I do think that R.E.M. got off track in later albums. My favorite is still "Life's Rich Pageant".

-Scott

[GaryG]

for the record, though I'm a big fan of REM (though the last few CDs have been pretty patchy) I find the Corky & the Juice Pigs pisstake fab because they've nailed him so well:

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Hey!
Hey you know here I am
I'm here now
Here I am, I'm standing
I'm right here
Here I am, on my legs
I'm standing, standing here
Under me there is a place
And I'm standing on it
Here I am
And I'll be here forever
Unless I move over here

Remember how we dreamed
Remember how we screamed
The vegetables were steamed
The people that we seemed to know there

There I was just a minute ago
But I'm not there now, no
I'm here, here again
But a different here
An eternal here, and eternal now
And I'm walking, I'm moving
I see you
My eyes are looking
I know you're there
Because at the end of my look you're there
I have eyes in my head
And I love you
When I look at you, you sometimes see me
If you're looking at me
And if you're not looking, then you don't
But I love you, I love you

Remember how we dreamed
Remember how we screamed
The vegetables were steamed
The people that we seemed to know there

I love you
I'm all alone
I'm here in my house alone
And I think of you
Lying in my bed
I look over out of the window
I see your face
And I'm frightened
'cause I live on the eighth floor
You must be really, really tall
You scare me

Remember how we dreamed
Remember how we screamed
The vegetables were steamed
The people that we seemed to know there

Don't forget
I'll be here
You know where I am
Eyes in my head
Teeth in my mouth
Legs on my body
Hey.

.g