2CAudio Kaleidoscope | It's A Trip | Latest Update 1.1

[tonkatodd]

I've been getting interesting rhythmical patterns using buildings and flowers/gardens.

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[wesleymayhem]

[quote="jc_vt"]There is a series of videos online by some artist in London I think, basic but some good tips. Don't overlook the "random all" function for some good serendipity

Do you mean the Folder Random in the Preset Browser??? Thanks.

[Sampleconstruct]

There is a series of videos online by some artist in London I think, basic but some good tips. Don't overlook the "random all" function for some good serendipity

Looks like many more brain synapses will be generated inside my head after installing ArtMatic, it's great to encounter something where you have absolutely no idea where to start but to read the FM. I did demo it some years ago but never got into it, now is the time to do so.

Thank you, the random is good for a quick start I figures, also there are plenty of presets to get you going. Brilliant program!

[Sampleconstruct]

Made my first 2 images in ArtMatic, used one for the input, one for the output, loaded a waveform I extracted from a sousaphone sample for the tuning of the string resonators and worked my way down the frequency spectrum, some Molekular on a Buss with a preset from DNA - I'm blown away...

Beware - very dissonant/disturbing music!

[KBSoundSmith]

Made my first 2 images in ArtMatic, used one for the input, one for the output, loaded a waveform I extracted from a sousaphone sample for the tuning of the string resonators and worked my way down the frequency spectrum, some Molekular on a Buss with a preset from DNA - I'm blown away...

Beware - very dissonant/disturbing music!

Ugh, I can't wait until I can get a new computer running so I can actually use KS in a practical amount of time.

Great example, Simon. It's amazing, the sounds--the amount of time it would take to score that for a string section would be daunting, and to have such quality come out so quickly...

[krankyone]

Simon, disturbing in such a good way! I know we are going to have to wait a generation or two for this, but being to smoothly sweep the Mod param on your piece would have been perfect.

[Sampleconstruct]

Simon, disturbing in such a good way! I know we are going to have to wait a generation or two for this, but being to smoothly sweep the Mod param on your piece would have been perfect.

Thank you! But I don't think we have to wait for so long - I'll make an audio only version crossfading between rendered excerpts from this. Maybe on my new Mac Pro I will actually be able to just automate crossfades between several instances of KS playing in different frequency ranges and at different densities. We'll see.

[Sampleconstruct]

Made my first 2 images in ArtMatic, used one for the input, one for the output, loaded a waveform I extracted from a sousaphone sample for the tuning of the string resonators and worked my way down the frequency spectrum, some Molekular on a Buss with a preset from DNA - I'm blown away...

Beware - very dissonant/disturbing music!

Ugh, I can't wait until I can get a new computer running so I can actually use KS in a practical amount of time.

Great example, Simon. It's amazing, the sounds--the amount of time it would take to score that for a string section would be daunting, and to have such quality come out so quickly...

Thank you, and imagine the rehearsals with classically trained string players for such a piece, I've had my good share of fighting with conventions and musicians claiming something would not be possible to play until you show them

[jtenney]

Here's what Simon says about creating a waveform...

"Edited one of my waterphone gong samples in Wavelab, isolated a snippet from it about 2050 samples in length, omly the left channel, resampled it to 2048 Khz, then converted it to 64 Bit/mono, rendered and imported that into my KS user waveforms.
The resulting data is totally abstract and does not represent the original waterphone gong sound at all, but the abstract data created this way sounds quite miraculous when applied to the resonator's tunings."

I am not familiar with Wavelab, having stuck with good old Peak for all these years, for better or for worse. It does not convert to 64 bit, nor does Fission or Audacity as far as I can see. Does anyone know if one would need the full version of Wavelab? Or could one use the stripped-down Wavelab Elements for this kind of application? How about other audio editors/processors to do the same job?

[KBSoundSmith]

Made my first 2 images in ArtMatic, used one for the input, one for the output, loaded a waveform I extracted from a sousaphone sample for the tuning of the string resonators and worked my way down the frequency spectrum, some Molekular on a Buss with a preset from DNA - I'm blown away...

Beware - very dissonant/disturbing music!

Ugh, I can't wait until I can get a new computer running so I can actually use KS in a practical amount of time.

Great example, Simon. It's amazing, the sounds--the amount of time it would take to score that for a string section would be daunting, and to have such quality come out so quickly...

Thank you, and imagine the rehearsals with classically trained string players for such a piece, I've had my good share of fighting with conventions and musicians claiming something would not be possible to play until you show them

Haha, for my Master's thesis, I wrote and had performed a piece for orchestra and electronics--it was inspired by Ligeti's Atmospheres. I remember getting the question "why would you want us to do that?" among other things. Funny how much of a hassle it can be to have musicians play something that isn't traditionally melodic (to be fair to them, they were pretty open-minded and good sports about the whole thing).

[Sampleconstruct]

Haha, for my Master's thesis, I wrote and had performed a piece for orchestra and electronics--it was inspired by Ligeti's Atmospheres. I remember getting the question "why would you want us to do that?" among other things. Funny how much of a hassle it can be to have musicians play something that isn't traditionally melodic (to be fair to them, they were pretty open-minded and good sports about the whole thing).

Maybe I was a bit harsh in my judgement maybe, and many orchestral musicians nowadays are much more open-minded and interested in something different. It also depends a lot on how you notate the music, less graphically fancy and more precise can save much hassle and time.

Still there is always a group of traditionalists in every orchestra which can make things difficult
Dedicated ensembles for new music are our best friends here.

[DocAtlas]

Mathematics is the language of nature", as it has been said before...

Anytime anyone says that quote I think of the beginning of Sasha's GU Ibiza: BT - Fibonacci Sequence .

Yes, this is why I put it in quotes. This is what I was quoting.

Still one of my favorite mix comps from the golden era of prog.

Agree!

This was back when "prog" meant "prog" and not Paris Hilton dishing our snare rolls, sirens, super saws, and cheesy pop vocals.


Hopefully KS can help reinvigorate some cool sound-design in dance music. I don't think we really need any more super saws...

Um, just what kind of music are you guys talking about when you mention Prog? The name brings to mind groups like Yes, ELP, Rush, and (early) Genesis, to name a few, but it sounds like you're talking about dance music. Then again, I'm an old fart, so maybe the young whippersnappers are using the word differently from what I'm used to.

Back on topic, I'm hoping to find some to time to play with the demo soon. I'm enjoying the pieces others are posting, and I'm curious to see what I can do with it.

[Andrew Souter]

I think Voice303 and and I know myself, were referring to "progressive house" and "progressive trance" as it was originally referred to in the mid to late 90s, and epitomized by record labels such as:

Renaissance Recordings
Global Underground
Bedrock
etc...


not "prog rock"... but hey, I like Rush too. They use Aether. (am I allowed to say that?? )

hey there's a new GU that I missed!!




To me, this is the proper use of the term "progressive/prog" when applied to dance music... if you looks at the Beatport chart today of Progressive you will notice it has been taken over by electro-influneced, snare roll and super-saw infested stadium raver stuff... IMHO that is not quite "progressive".

[Sampleconstruct]

Staying in the theme of orchestral Kaleidoscope music, here is another one using two new images and a tuning waveform extracted from a bass clarinet, sound quite huge, surreal brass and strings:

[Aiynzahev]

I think Voice303 and and I know myself, were referring to "progressive house" and "progressive trance" as it was originally referred to in the mid to late 90s, and epitomized by record labels such as:

Renaissance Recordings
Global Underground
Bedrock
etc...


not "prog rock"... but hey, I like Rush too. They use Aether. (am I allowed to say that?? )

hey there's a new GU that I missed!!




To me, this is the proper use of the term "progressive/prog" when applied to dance music... if you looks at the Beatport chart today of Progressive you will notice it has been taken over by electro-influneced, snare roll and super-saw infested stadium raver stuff... IMHO that is not quite "progressive".

Well, according to some, the new progressive house thats on beatport, really is progressive house. They know about what you call prog-house (and I still do too) but their narrative is that, this what we have today, is what progressive house progressed to. Thing is progressive house as it was, is still around so? I think beatport screwed that up and a lot of people don't seem to know any better.

That GU40 sounds ace.