KVR Audio

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:10 pm

Sparky77 wrote:
Greg Houston wrote:
Sparky77 wrote:I have been messing around with that idea of importing a whole (or part) song into Serum, then adding some effects.

Its cool, but playability is limited to one note (generally Middle C), so....

Its a very capable synth for sure.
4 more macro slots, 4 more LFOs, and 3 times as many matrix slots and you could probably make entire songs out of a single preset. Serum could usher in the KVR One-Preset-Challenge.
Oh, there is no question you could make an entire song from a single preset.
Check out the many audio examples, its impressive, and these are with the first release.

But don't forget, you can make an entire song with a single violin, guitar, flute, piano, etc...

I'm sure many of us make an entire piece using single presets already - I do.

Greg Houston · Post by **Greg Houston** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:16 pm

Sparky77 wrote:But don't forget, you can make an entire song with a single violin, guitar, flute, piano, etc...

That to me is actually the true acid test for synthesized instruments, the day we can easily make a new sound/instrument that has whatever mojo real acoustic instruments have that you could skillfully play the same synthesized instrument solo on 10 songs in a row, perhaps with vocal accompaniment, and not grow tired of it just like with an acoustic guitar or piano.

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:34 pm

I tried to program a typical saw pluck with the Virus XL, Serum (with Virus Wavetable), Sylenth, Spire (in this order). It's a 4x Unison and always a pattern with 4 bars.

https://soundcloud.com/52degree/sawpluc ... sp/s-DdBri

dwozzle · Post by **dwozzle** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:04 pm

Greg Houston wrote:That to me is actually the true acid test for synthesized instruments, the day we can easily make a new sound/instrument that has whatever mojo real acoustic instruments have that you could skillfully play the same synthesized instrument solo on 10 songs in a row, perhaps with vocal accompaniment, and not grow tired of it just like with an acoustic guitar or piano.

Agreed. We tend to act like you need different presets, or even VSTIs, aka different "instruments", to have enough interest to make an entire song or album or career. Players of acoustic or electric non-synth instruments do sometimes use different instruments, esp electric folks, but they're still playing guitar, or bass, or whatever, and many of them the same one all the time, without falling into that attitude. I've mostly been playing the same one guitar and one bass for many years. If I've got nothing fresh going on, it's not that I need a new axe methinks.

Mace404 · Post by **Mace404** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:31 pm

Installed the Codex demo and converted the wavetables to Serum ^^
Had to doublecheck some wavetables if I did them correctly. Some of them are just.. well, meh.
(Check 58 to 62 for example. Almost half a table offset on the first position while the tables are really 512 samples)

Anyways, link: https://copy.com/bqcPc73tBw82VB8C

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:45 am

Singing Alien meets Digital Monk:

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/s ... gital-monk

Greg Houston · Post by **Greg Houston** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:55 am

Mace404 wrote:Installed the Codex demo and converted the wavetables to Serum ^^
Had to doublecheck some wavetables if I did them correctly. Some of them are just.. well, meh.
(Check 58 to 62 for example. Almost half a table offset on the first position while the tables are really 512 samples)

Anyways, link: https://copy.com/bqcPc73tBw82VB8C

Thanks. I actually like these quite a bit. There's a general style or simplicity to them that makes modulating through the sub-tables very useable.

"64 Nothing" should just be removed from the pack though. In theory it might make a nice placeholder for an unused oscillator, but it's incompatible with Serum and causes problems, at least on Windows 7 in Cubase 7.5.

paterpeter · Post by **paterpeter** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:57 am

Sampleconstruct wrote:Singing Alien meets Digital Monk:

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/s ... gital-monk

Simon, you are a genius when it comes to this odd-worldly, drone-ish stuff.

Mace404 · Post by **Mace404** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:20 am

Greg Houston wrote: Thanks. I actually like these quite a bit. There's a general style or simplicity to them that makes modulating through the sub-tables very useable.

"64 Nothing" should just be removed from the pack though. In theory it might make a nice placeholder for an unused oscillator, but it's incompatible with Serum and causes problems, at least on Windows 7 in Cubase 7.5.

Was doubting about that one indeed. I had no errors saving/loading that one so I just included it for the sake of completion. Will remove it then.

Edit: Updated the zip.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:21 pm

paterpeter wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:Singing Alien meets Digital Monk:

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/s ... gital-monk

Simon, you are a genius when it comes to this odd-worldly, drone-ish stuff.

I take that as a compliment and thank you very much for the flowers - someone has to do it - LOL

paterpeter · Post by **paterpeter** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:23 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:
paterpeter wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:Singing Alien meets Digital Monk:

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/s ... gital-monk

Simon, you are a genius when it comes to this odd-worldly, drone-ish stuff.
I take that as a compliment and thank you very much for the flowers - someone has to do it - LOL

That was absolutely meant as a compliment

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:44 pm

paterpeter wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
paterpeter wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:Singing Alien meets Digital Monk:

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/s ... gital-monk

Simon, you are a genius when it comes to this odd-worldly, drone-ish stuff.
I take that as a compliment and thank you very much for the flowers - someone has to do it - LOL
That was absolutely meant as a compliment

Thank's, I was only joking with myself

PatchAdamz · Post by **PatchAdamz** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:02 pm

A little "old school" for Serum.

A String Machine Patch Circa 1976, remade by Serum:

https://soundcloud.com/vintage-synth-pa ... ntrated-32

havran · Post by **havran** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:55 pm

Steve and Lance, thank you for making Serum! It's beautiful, sounds great, and is comprehensible and easy to use, even for a duffer like me.

It has been nice to read this thread: the enthusiasm, the positive spirit, the inspiration. I think that just reading this thread might have improved my character a little.

I have only spot-checked a few of the presets but I'd like to mention that last night I spent some time just playing "FX Ambiance Evil" by Kris Giampa while fiddling with knobs -- very nice rumble-space instrument!

sonicpowa · Post by **sonicpowa** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:28 pm

Mace404 wrote:Installed the Codex demo and converted the wavetables to Serum ^^
Had to doublecheck some wavetables if I did them correctly. Some of them are just.. well, meh.
(Check 58 to 62 for example. Almost half a table offset on the first position while the tables are really 512 samples)

Anyways, link: https://copy.com/bqcPc73tBw82VB8C

Do you have Waves permission to distribute these wavetables on the net freely? I don´t think they like it...

Official Serum thread!