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vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:06 am

FaX wrote:
Lee702 wrote:
vurt wrote:
Lee702 wrote:Why is hip hop always the example you guys use to cut music down?

lack of imagination
Where do you think electronic music came from?

Yeah man I mean YelloMagicOrchestra , Tomita , Jarre , Vangelis , Wendy Carlos , Kraftwerk , Tangerine Dream , Gary Numan etc etc where all digging shitloads of hip hop in there day .

i think you will find it was wu tang carlos.

Lee702 · Post by **Lee702** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:07 am

Sorry I took it the wrong way i guess

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:08 am

Lee702 wrote:Sorry I took it the wrong way i guess

indeed you did, when it comes to hip hop ma boy, i was listening to the likes of nwa and the ghetto boys before you were even born probably.
yes im f**king old

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:57 am

vurt wrote: i was listening to the likes of nwa and the ghetto boys before you were even born probably.
yes im f**king old

Ah, but do you remember ?

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:16 am

of course

and the sugarhill gang too

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:22 am

blaster78 wrote:who gives a f**k what you use to write a tune.... as long as its a good tune.

If KVR generally took this logic, at least half of the threads here wouldnt exist... or at the very least would each be a lot shorter in responses.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:23 am

Lee702 wrote:
vurt wrote:
Lee702 wrote:Why is hip hop always the example you guys use to cut music down?

lack of imagination
Where do you think electronic music came from?

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:39 am

http://www.cheebadesign.com/perfect/kra ... follow.htm

Maybe the most important Kraftwerk follower must be Afrika Bambaataa. He was a big fan of Trans Europe Express and he used to play the song on the party's they organised in the late 70's. Funny enough, this was party's that was mainly for black people, and Kraftwerk being white guys from Germany makes this a real unique combination at the time. When Kraftwerk released Numbers in 1981, Bambaataa fused that track with Trans Europe Express and made the song called Planet Rock, the first electro-hip hop song. This track changed the whole hip hop music at the time, and paved way to other music geniouses like: Mantronix, The Egyptian Lover, Cybotron and the track even inspired Jazz musicians like Herbie Hancock to try out the new musical phenomenon (with great success). One of the greatest innovators in hip hop, Grandmaster Flash has also praised the work of Kraftwerk. Flash, as Bambaataa, used to play Trans Europe Express in the park where he was mastering the turntables in a unique way. He was making music by cutting up pieces of other peoples music and made it into party music. Flash once said "this record by kraftwerk is great, i can even go to the bathroom while i play it...it mixes itself!!". Man Parrish, one of the first electro artists in the early eighties said in a interview "What can I say? Kraftwerk was the inspiration for dozens of "Hip Hop" artist back then (now it's called electro or freestyle). I just happened to be one of the first to combine Kraftwerk stylings with sounds and words we experienced on the New York Street Scene. Other than Kraftwerk, there were few other sources of that amazing "new" sound, so we made our own!!

PaulG · Post by **PaulG** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:46 am

Hmm...

7 pages of replies...

Not one real answer to the question.

I guess that means there prob'ly ain't any, then, huh?

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:51 am

PaulG wrote:Hmm...

7 pages of replies...

Not one real answer to the question.

I guess that means there prob'ly ain't any, then, huh?

the answer just isn't what you wanted to hear, that's all.

Watto · Post by **Watto** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:52 am

You've already got it, mate - most of them ARE done on PT. That doesn't actually MEAN anything, that's all...

...besides, if you want your album to get mixed by one of those guys, you'd be better placed if it was in PT format

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:58 am

PaulG wrote:Hmm...

7 pages of replies...

Not one real answer to the question.

I guess that means there prob'ly ain't any, then, huh?

Well, that's what you get for trying to solicit ammunition for, what ultimately amounts to, a petty and meaningless little pissing match between you and your friend.

metalifuxx · Post by **metalifuxx** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:58 am

Steven Wilson of Porcupine Tree uses Logic. Any Opeth fans? Check out the Opeth "Lamentations" DVD with a live concert and also about a 1 hour bonus documentary on the recording/producing of Opeth's last couple albums in which Steve Wilson helped produced/recorded which he says he uses Logic (and shows) exclusively and not that pro tools crap. Steven rescued them from another producer/studio who was butchering thier recordings and losing finished tracks because they were running into errors and malfunctions trying to use analog tape and pro tools together. Could have been the recording engineer but it proved a good point. Progressive death/doom metal might not be your fancy but this DVD is worth it for the documentary alone.

projektio · Post by **projektio** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:58 am

Just because 99% of the Top 100 records out there used ProTools for recording, doesn't mean being in the 1% without a hit record is a bad thing. Look at an artist like Tom Waits, he dislikes the major labels, and still sells a good chunk of albums that contain a sound that HE wants.

You are either a musician and artist for the sake of the art, or you are only in it for the fame and money, very few musicians can have it both ways.

I chose the art.

Watto · Post by **Watto** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:00 am

metalifuxx wrote:he uses Logic (and shows) exclusively and not that pro tools crap.

Through what soundcard though? I'd still bet on it being HD.

Any NON-ProTools hit records?