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[smart]

I really don't know jack shit about code

Thought I'd mention it, but I'm sure they've thought about it already.

[ctmg]

Well, if I remember correctly, reflex did at least part of the Delphi VST interface, which means he needs at least a little bit of C++ knowledge (decoding Steinberg's crap code).

[womble42]

I have used a PC for years - and constantly had to mess around with sound cards and memory cofigs etc.. Yep, in the end I happened on the audiophile super-stable sound card but my point is - I bought a MACBOOK because we wanted to get rid of having a bulky large computer in the house and have something more portable - I went for MAC because the OS appealed to me and some friends enjoyed using it.
The real point is - I plugged in my USB keyboard and HEY !!! Straightway, out of the box the laptop worked with it, no latency and had the bundled garageband to boot!
Its very narrow minded to trash one system or another- The PC DOES have a tonne more software and I do miss the likes of Z3ta synth etc.. but in the end its choice. I would say this - OSX does not get in the way, it just sits there and you do "stuff" with it - Windows always seems more obtrusive. But hey - it's choice!

[james0tucson]

I have used a PC for years - and constantly had to mess around with sound cards and memory cofigs etc.

Haven't had a problem with a sound card since I took the overwheliming advice to go for the M-Audio Delta series.

Haven't really touched a "memory config" since Windows 3.11, more than ten years ago.

. Yep, in the end I happened on the audiophile super-stable sound card but my point is - I bought a MACBOOK because we wanted to get rid of having a bulky large computer in the house and have something more portable

My Toshiba weighs slightly less than my Macbook. To be fair, I'm actually *using* the Macbook now, because I travel with it exclusively...

My point is, choose a platform because you like the platform. Don't fall into the trap of arguing the relative merits of one platform over another. Okay, I did that at work and we ended up switching to Solaris and phasing out Digital Unix. But I do not recommend "Mac versus PC", or "Windows versus Linux", or even "MacOSX vs BSD vs Linux". The argument itself will not make you happy, and it won't get you anywhere.

Just use the machines you want to use, and be done with it. It doesn't matter which is "better" -- because it probably *isn't*.

[Toxikator]

The argument itself will not make you happy

I beg to differ

[fretwizz]

"....SHOCKED! to find image-line havent raleased a native version for the OSX...."

err.... is it just me or can no one here see the stupidity of the OP
in not checking to see if a certain piece of software is supported
before switching platforms... not after???

DOH!!!

[Basic]

Hi ppl!
Great discussion...for many reason...my opinion, in short word:

I've studyed IT and i'm a musician in two diferent projects;

I've bought a mac 2 year ago and by my personal experience i can say that windows is a piece of crap OS.
I've tryed FL studio and love it for the simplicity and how fast i turn thought's into the actual thing ( music ) but, unfortunately, is windows only.

The day FL is available for mac, i'll buy it ( Fully loaded version with all the extras... )!!!! :p
I really don't represent a large audience opinion but I don't think i'm alone in here!

I Love my mac and probably will never go back ( to windows )! Hate windows, pc hardware and the monopoly actitude of Microsoft! I'm a musician, not that ignorant and still liked FL very much. I will not reply to any computer centric matter. Please respect my opinion has i respect yours.
Just wanted to say....Please, bring it to mac :p maybe it will worth it.

sorry my lame english :s

Thank you all [[[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]]

[kmonkey]

You went for a more stable platform that's more stable because it has no software, there's nothing to be shocked about

[theshaggyfreak]

The real differences between going Mac or PC (as far as I have seen from 10 years working in IT support. These are just opinions...):

Pros -
PCs offer more variety with more software being available for it. You can build your own PC from a bare bones system and you can build a very low cost solution. PCs can be customized in many ways with both hardware and software. PC's are fairly easy to diagnose when there is a problem.

Macs generally work straight out of the box for nearly everything. You don't even need to load drivers for many different types of hardware. The interface is a bit more idiot proof and I find there are fewer clicks to get where you want to go. You have fewer choices of what you can buy hardware wise but that makes buying decisions much easier. If maintenance is run at the correct intervals, I find that the system stays very stable for long periods of time.

Cons -
PCs suffer from having too many choices. If you're building your own PC, you need to do a lot of research so that you getting something that will be stable. Laptops are not standardized which can cause a lot of problems depending on the hardware you're trying to set up with it. There are just too many brands to wade through.

Macs have a more idiot proof interface but a lot of customizable functions are hidden. It's a bit harder to fix OSX when it breaks since there are very few obvious tools to repair problems. When I do have a problem, I find a lot less information on the internet to help me solve things. Macs are more expensive and not necessarily faster or more efficient. You are limited to software that's only available for OSX (unless you're running bootcamp on the newer Intel machines).

***
In the end, it depends on what you want and what you're willing to go through to get it. Each side has trade offs that you need to think of. I was a PC user for many years until recently. I made the switch because I got tired of having to do a ton of research when I wanted to build a new computer. I don't enjoy it anymore. Also, I'm not a fan of certain things M$ is doing with Vista. I'll probably stick with using XP when I get an Intel Mac (bootcamp) since I have a few pieces of Windows only software that I really like.

[lordvader48]

I have both Mac and Windows. Flstudio runs much better (much more smoothly with fewer problems) on my Macbook under Parallels than it does on my 2.8GHZ Windows machine.

We use Mac for all of our serious production work because we need the stability. People who do not understand that OSX is considerably more robust and stable than XP should take a closer look at the technical issues involved.

It is a *fact* that OSX is much more stable than XP, and has significantly better realtime capabilities. OSX's kernel and low-level OS facilities are just a lot better for realtime music stuff. Pros know this, and take advantage of it.

[tony tony chopper]

OSX's kernel and low-level OS facilities are just a lot better for realtime music stuff. Pros know this, and take advantage of it.

music or programming pro's? I don't code for macs, but I've only heard programmers writing bad things about it. It didn't sound at all like what you're saying, more the opposite.

It is a *fact* that OSX is much more stable than XP

in the same thread you wrote that XP was working better on your mac than on a PC. Doesn't that mean you have some config problem on your PC? If so, then you can't really fairly compare OSes.

[lordvader48]

All it means is that the Parallels people have done a better job at the overall integration (Parallels + WinXP) than Microsoft has done with their integration (which is directly to hardware).

This is unsurprising, since Microsoft is known for being very bad at this sort of thing, and has little incentive to deliver bug-free product. Parallels is a small company trying to "get it right" so they can be successful. They're motivated, and it really shows.

Everything I've claimed is consistent, and these results have been reproduced and reported at sites other than our own as well. In fact, we got into the Parallels thing precisely because it's been widely and objectively reported that Parallels + XP works a lot better than XP running directly on hardware. If you have such big doubts, then maybe you should try it It's sad, but now Intel Macs really are better "Windows machines" than.. Windows machines. I wish it weren't true.

[tony tony chopper]

This is unsurprising, since Microsoft

That's very dumb. Does Microsoft do PC's? They don't, they do Windows. Isn't that Windows that you install on a mac? So it's Microsoft behind it. So when it works bad, you blame Microsoft, and when the exact same thing works well, you praise Parallels?

[lordvader48]

Wow!! You. Just. Don't. Get. It.

Oh well, your loss I suppose.

[arguru]

They make XCode, one of the better IDE's out there, available.

is gay compared to MSVC IDE.