KVR Audio

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:32 pm

Yes, it does sound a bit Synapse-ish. Interesting that that's even obvious when they do a specific emulation.

Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:35 pm

chk071 wrote:Yes, it does sound a bit Synapse-ish. Interesting that that's even obvious when they do a specific emulation.

Synapse-ish i think is the right word

I have Junglist, Dune 1 and Dune 2 and they all share some "spice" that its only specific to Synapse synths.

festeringheap · Post by **festeringheap** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:41 pm

kmonkey wrote: Don't use Reason anymore but i am glad Reason users are (finally) getting some really impressive and decent synths. Synapse and Rob Papen are killing it for Reason (imo).

There is an excellent wavetable synth that just came out - eXpanse - that you can throw in with those as well.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:42 pm

I am 100% sure that if you do not use any of the advanced features and/or external FXs it simply sounds like a Minimoog Model D.
And even with the advanced features i could rarely see this sounding close to DUNE 2, except if you program the patches in bot hsynths to do so.

Maybe the built-in Reverb could give a more "Synapse-ish" touch to the sound while it also could be simply "hallcucinating". Sometimes people just hear what they want to hear.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:44 pm

Elektronisch wrote:is it only me or this does sound a bit more like a Dune 2?

Yes, I think it does in the demo video. There was also a bunch of comparison files (the Legend vs the hardware it emulates) posted on p. 1 of this thread, and there it sounds almost exactly like the HW.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:46 pm

Ingonator wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Looks like the Re may be much more flexible but is the sound quality the same as the VSTi?
Only the CV input seem to be additional in the RE version.

Yes but that's huge.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:11 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Looks like the Re may be much more flexible but is the sound quality the same as the VSTi?
Only the CV input seem to be additional in the RE version.
Yes but that's huge.

But it's quite irrelevant for the VST version. I posted that screenshopt to show the advanced sound tweaking options (as the is no offical screenshot for the VST yet), not the CVs for the RE version, but most replies ignored this so far.

I a no Reason user or expert but without the CV inputs and the audio outputs the plugin seems to be quite unusable within Reason.

If you think the VST version is really "limited" in comparison i do not agree for sure but see yorself when the demo version is out.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:22 pm

Just wondering, but which additional functionality do people expect on the VST version, regarding CV stuff? Isn't there routing limitations, dictated by the VST format itself? I always thought most plugins make the most out of what is possible with a VST, or AU plugin in a compatible host.

And, as Ingo said, a RE without the rack stuff in the back would be kind of pointless, since the point of Reason is that it allows all that stuff, from the internal devices, and the rack extensions. Reason is simply a different beast compared to a VST host.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:22 pm

Elektronisch wrote:
eXode wrote:
Elektronisch wrote:is it only me or this does sound a bit more like a Dune 2?
As mentioned earlier in this thread the VST/AU page is a template and not final. So yes, it lists the specs for Dune 2 and not The Legend.
No, i mean by the sound from youtube demo.

yes I think two things are in play: KS demoing and maybe some of the presets do have a more modern twist on it.... like a pimped out 1970 Mercedes Benz Classic (why oh why)

rsp

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:39 pm

zvenx wrote:
Elektronisch wrote:
eXode wrote:
Elektronisch wrote:is it only me or this does sound a bit more like a Dune 2?
As mentioned earlier in this thread the VST/AU page is a template and not final. So yes, it lists the specs for Dune 2 and not The Legend.
No, i mean by the sound from youtube demo.
yes I think two things are in play: KS demoing and maybe some of the presets do have a more modern twist on it.... like a pimped out 1970 Mercedes Benz Classic (why oh why)

rsp

Yes, i really love the KS patches in Dune2. For me they belong to the best patches in general which comes with a synth.
But i wanted to hear more the cinematic side rather than EDM here.
But i read that it comes with 500 patches?
Looking forward.
I said to me that i just will buy one more plug-in this year. This could be a candidate if it really offers me a lot beyond Dune 2.
Not sure yet.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:44 pm

EDM obviously sells, otherwise they wouldn't do such presentation vids. There are some typical 80ies Moogy sounds in there though. Whatever you think about those.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:44 pm

Cinebient wrote: I said to me that i just will buy one more plug-in this year. This could be a candidate if it really offers me a lot beyond Dune 2.
Not sure yet.

Comparing DUNE 2 to The Legend for me is more like comparing an Apple to a Banana.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:50 pm

Ingonator wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Looks like the Re may be much more flexible but is the sound quality the same as the VSTi?
Only the CV input seem to be additional in the RE version.
Yes but that's huge.
But it's quite irrelevant for the VST version.

Obviously. So for those of us with Reason it may be worth getting the Re rather than the VSTi, providing the sound is the same.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:08 pm

Cinebient wrote:
zvenx wrote:
Elektronisch wrote:
eXode wrote:
Elektronisch wrote:is it only me or this does sound a bit more like a Dune 2?
As mentioned earlier in this thread the VST/AU page is a template and not final. So yes, it lists the specs for Dune 2 and not The Legend.
No, i mean by the sound from youtube demo.
yes I think two things are in play: KS demoing and maybe some of the presets do have a more modern twist on it.... like a pimped out 1970 Mercedes Benz Classic (why oh why)

rsp
Yes, i really love the KS patches in Dune2. For me they belong to the best patches in general which comes with a synth.
But i wanted to hear more the cinematic side rather than EDM here.
But i read that it comes with 500 patches?
Looking forward.
I said to me that i just will buy one more plug-in this year. This could be a candidate if it really offers me a lot beyond Dune 2.
Not sure yet.

Im not sure a minimoog emu is going to offer you 'a lot beyond Dune 2'

You will get a minimoog emulation, nit an 8 layer synth with all the trimmings.

Two very diff beasts

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:10 pm

Elektronisch wrote:
eXode wrote:
Elektronisch wrote:is it only me or this does sound a bit more like a Dune 2?
As mentioned earlier in this thread the VST/AU page is a template and not final. So yes, it lists the specs for Dune 2 and not The Legend.
No, i mean by the sound from youtube demo.

Thats down to the person doing the video and same old edm sounds. Some ppl like to repeat themselves on every synth.

Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!