KVR Audio

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:13 am

Teksonik wrote:I had forgotten I even own a V-Station license. Just installed it on this system and had a play. Now I see why I forgot all about it.

It's still a nice synth and back in the day it was relevant but there are so many other choices now at least in my VSTi folder that V-Station would have a hard time ever making it on to a track.....

Having the Novation X Station, which was a V Station supposedly, the one thing I did like about it was the filter. Sometimes a "cheap" filter can do some good things. I miss the filters on my EMU E6400, especially the metallic sounding bandpass!

Local Man · Post by **Local Man** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:48 am

VariKusBrainZ wrote:£14

Exclusive virtual instrument and effects plug-in bundle including Novation's V-Station and Bass Station soft synths plus Focusrite's Midnight Effects Plugin Suite.

https://www.absolutemusic.co.uk/focusri ... ition.html

That's a pretty cool deal. I have the Bass Station and I actually like it (I still use it from time to time even over the Legend for some things). So I am intrigued by the V Station. I wonder if the Midnight Suite is worth bothering with at all.

jacqueslacouth · Post by **jacqueslacouth** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:50 am

Absolutely NOT! Awful sounding thing. I kind of went for the Novation sound way back when, when I had a Novation Super Nova. I quickly tired of it and everything since sounded like a weak facsimile of the Nova family which looking back from these days was really not that nice a sound...personal opinion only

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:30 am

yul wrote:
chk071 wrote: Can you turn that off? Always was a bit of a odd thing when i used the V-Station. Actually, i quite hated it for some sounds, also because it is so unpredictable.
Not unless tou completely turn off filter enveloppe (at 0) and use an LFO instead. I even emailed Novation and citing a similar issue back in the day with Moog Voyager filter glide.

Anyways, it seems part of the design and can’t be changed. I got over it and got to appreciate ir the way it is which is totally fine.

Fair enough.

I still remember how much time it took me to figure out that using 2 or more oscillators always had that weird punchy sound, because phase retriggering is activated by default, and somewhere hidden on page 2.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:32 am

jacqueslacouth wrote:Absolutely NOT! Awful sounding thing. I kind of went for the Novation sound way back when, when I had a Novation Super Nova. I quickly tired of it and everything since sounded like a weak facsimile of the Nova family which looking back from these days was really not that nice a sound...personal opinion only

I find the Ultranova very weak and bland sounding. It sounds like they completely amputated the little character there was in the former Nova synths, and made it conform to the current ideal of clean, posh, and character-less synths. I must say i quite like the sound of the older Nova's though. Surely not the best sounding synths ever, but, by far not the worst either, IMO.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:30 pm

Sounds just fine to me (patches around 5:15).

felis · Post by **felis** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:50 pm

I've got V-station somewhere, but haven't used it for years. I never really cared for the sound or features.
I see it's 64 bit now, so maybe I'll dig it out and give it another try.

I have a hardware Nova that I still keep around and use a bit.
The Nova always sounded much better to me.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:04 pm

EvilDragon wrote:

Sounds just fine to me (patches around 5:15).

I've watched a gazillion of different vids, and, it just doesn't blow me away somehow. To each his own.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:33 pm

Its on my system, but I cant remember the last time I used it. Same with the bass station.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:47 pm

Also on my system and I haven't used it for years............So I tried it again awhile ago and remember why i haven't used it for years

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Back in the days it was good..... but so many better options now.. I guess i keep it installed if I have to revisit old projects that may have used it.

Plus the GUI is so small and preset browser almost non existent.
rsp

jacqueslacouth · Post by **jacqueslacouth** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:53 pm

chk071 wrote:
jacqueslacouth wrote:Absolutely NOT! Awful sounding thing. I kind of went for the Novation sound way back when, when I had a Novation Super Nova. I quickly tired of it and everything since sounded like a weak facsimile of the Nova family which looking back from these days was really not that nice a sound...personal opinion only
I find the Ultranova very weak and bland sounding. It sounds like they completely amputated the little character there was in the former Nova synths, and made it conform to the current ideal of clean, posh, and character-less synths. I must say i quite like the sound of the older Nova's though. Surely not the best sounding synths ever, but, by far not the worst either, IMO.

Agreed, not the worst sounding synths (actually, not bad at all amongst the VAs of the time) but their time has long since past.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:23 pm

Teksonik wrote:I had forgotten I even own a V-Station license. Just installed it on this system and had a play. Now I see why I forgot all about it.

thecontrolcentre wrote:Its on my system, but I cant remember the last time I used it. Same with the bass station.

zvenx wrote:Also on my system and I haven't used it for years............So I tried it again awhile ago and remember why i haven't used it for years .

I think this is a perfect example of the difference between "sounds good" and "sounds good in comparison to...."

In isolation V-Station sounds good but when compared to other options we have at our disposal now it just can't compete.

All my opinion of course and others will no doubt disagree but as time goes on plugins begin to be dropped out of my favorites folder as they are replaced by superior sounding and functioning alternatives.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:31 pm

Local Man wrote: I wonder if the Midnight Suite is worth bothering with at all.

I'm not a big fan of the Midnight plugins but the Focusrite Red EQ sits on many of my Guitar Templates. Seems to fit my source material quite well.

But if you get the Midnight plugins as part of a deal then they are certainly worth installing. Perhaps they will fit your source material just as well.....

What is this deal ? V-Station, Bass Station and the Midnight plugins for something like $13 ?

Despite what I've said earlier in this thread I'd say go for it....if for nothing else an afternoon's entertainment. Can't go to a movie for $13 anymore........

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:44 pm

I would say, it sounds OK. Ish. Can have a nice character for some sounds. But, the K-Station came out in 2002, i think, so, it's a bit long in the teeth now. FWIW. There's surely been a lot of progress since then.

If it had more polyphony, and, there wasn't that odd filter "glitch", i'd probably use it more. Surely has a sound of its own, which is nice for some things.

BTW, the V-Station and Bass Station plugins have also been in the Beat magazine's content, 5,55 € for the ISO file (need to explicitely choose the ISO, in the drop down menu where it says "Download-Magazin"): https://www.falkemedia-shop.de/sound/be ... 16?number=

benheman · Post by **benheman** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:30 pm

Use it rarely, like many others on my system, BUT really good synth!

So, anyone still using Novation V-Station?