Who is the u-he of hardware synths?

[Ploki]

Except Peter Kirn is not Jewish according to his own words.
And there are no antisemitism in mentioning Pinoccio.

First of all, any kind of such retort towards a journalist from a company is unacceptable.
Second of all, nor me nor anyone who replied to me mentioned "antisemitic".
(If you want to know why the antisemitism was slapped over it read up here: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/happy-merchant).
A german making a caricature resembling antisemitic drawings from the nazi era however, is beyond ridiculous.

To make it clear: I don't think it was meant to be antisemitic, nor do i care whether Uli is a latent nazi or not. Such blatant attacks on journalists by companies is absolutely unacceptable.
If you can't run a large company because you're a small-town hillbilly, then just don't.

more for me then

Yeah, for me too. Great hardware sounds for not a lot of money. Many software companies, especially those with expensive products, must hate them.

I'm not boycotting Behringer (i'm not actively seeking out their products either), but sheesh, can you show just a tiny shred of decency and self-awareness?

By supporting companies with questionable business practices and questionable attitude towards critics and customers. YOU ARE A PART OF THE PROBLEM.

[AnX]

[Ploki]

it's all fun and games until it's not

[AnX]

By supporting companies with questionable business practices and questionable attitude towards critics and customers. YOU ARE A PART OF THE PROBLEM.

i guess we are ALL part of the problem then, unless everyone here doesn't buy at least one item from a company that fits that description

careful when jump off that high horse of yours

[Ploki]

i guess we are ALL part of the problem then, unless everyone here doesn't buy at least one item from a company that fits that description

careful when jump off that high horse of yours

If such a stunt directly results in one company's profits, they will think twice before pulling it again.
if it doesn't, we are collectively and effectively giving them a free pass.

[Aliens]

I know, right? And also

[Ploki]

it's not my fault your principles don't go further than "i can buy it cheaper so who cares"

[Aliens]

Principle police on the internet, now. Who'd have thunked it.

[AnX]

I'm not boycotting Behringer (i'm not actively seeking out their products either)

so your principles are on the fence then

[lunardigs]

I guess, I'm much more utilitarian here. If a product is decidedly good/useful/beneficial, I can largely ignore whatever I don't like about the brand. In the end, I just don't personalize the stuff I buy; products are not my identity.

That said, I think the Kirn Cork Sniffer is pretty humorous. If these guys wanna throw stones at each other, fine, fair game. Everyone is free to judge them as well. I personally wouldn't do it with my brand. Although, if it's real, I'd rather see this than phony 'Branding 101' stuff, like 'our brand likes everyone!'

Btw, I vote Korg too.

[Ploki]

you don't have to like it, you can just choose not to participate in idiotic shenanigans such as berating a f**king journalist. (who was actually right in what he said)

[Ploki]

I'm not boycotting Behringer (i'm not actively seeking out their products either)

so your principles are on the fence then

No, it just means that when there's an alternative i'll pick another brand, mostly because of this.

there's a spectrum of integrity. Somewhere between middle and one end is "i won't buy this brand unless there's absolutely no alternative"
Not perfect, not great.
in the middle there's the "i have no clue what this is about" - literally no opinion.
On the far other end, there's "more for me / i can buy cheaper"

I just don't think the company's should be allowed to do whatever the f**k they want with 0 repercussions. This isn't good for anyone, not only journalists or peter kirn.

[lunardigs]

you don't have to like it, you can just choose not to participate in idiotic shenanigans such as berating a f**king journalist. (who was actually right in what he said)

I get you, but a perfunctory part of his job is to be a critic. Sometimes critics get criticized, it's an occupation hazard. I have a very hard time believing that someone here is entirely innocent.

Btw, my ideals have taken me to crazy places where I boycott all kinds of stuff. I haven't had a cellphone in twenty years; I think everyone participating in that industry is abusive. I won't drink Budweiser, I refuse to consume GMO anything (knowingly). Am I extreme? Maybe. Will I declare Kirn innocent and Behringer the bully? Nope, because I don't know enough. Still, I have a very hard time believing that anyone is entirely innocent in these silly fights.

[Urs]

I give those who think that "there's very fine people on both sides" (or vice versa, like, each side has had not coming) the benefit of a doubt because they might not have followed the whole story. But the story is there, and it's quite telling.

For me, knowing a bit more about what's behind this, the discussion here is unbearable. I'll therefore lock this thread and hope that anyone who - knowingly or not - condones SLAPP suits and attacks on journalism will move out of my filter bubble, or better yet, read Peter Kirn's articles about Behring from the past 20 years, or check other sources on the matters he reported on.

When I say, "yes they're cheap, but they're overpriced", the price you pay is not just your money.