What is wrong with Cubase?

[trtzbass]

Ftr I have no issue with dongles (and in many cases prefer them), but I do know that for some it is an issue and may be part of why Cubendo isn't as popular as it could be? Just guessing here.
rsp

I don't use Cubase precisely because of the dongle and I whish they dropped it because I love the DAW.

It's only a gut feeling, but, I feel like there is a chance that Cubase 11 comes without dongle protection. There's been rumours about that for a long time now.

I so hope you're right.
If they are doing that I'll be opening a thread and posting fireworks gifs for a week

[tooneba]

I don't know why they don't offer dongle free period after its plugged at certain timing. User can plug it once every few weeks when they are at home/studio. Requiring 24/7 is just ridiculous.

[telecode]

Actually, the USB-C is a good point... at some point, all computers will only have USB-C ports, so, either Steinberg manufactures a new USB-C dongle, or drops eLicenser completely.

yeah. this has been a pain point on other forums. luckily doesnt affect me and shouldn't for a while, hopefully. i dont use the latest Apple hardware in music studio. the dongle is annoying also as it uses up a port all the time for no reason other than being to use the software.

[dellboy]

One of the reasons I like dongles is because it makes it much harder to pirate software that hard working people have paid good money for.

I honestly have no idea if Cubase 10.5 has been pirated, and I have no intention of googling to find out, but I hope that Steinberg do not give into the cries to remove the dongle because it is at least a strong deterent against it being pirated.

I am pretty certain that a lot, if not all, challenge - response software has been compromised, and therefore tempts some people to use that instead of buying the software, which in turn leads to a loss of development income for the companies concerned.

[tooneba]

One of the reasons I like dongles is because it makes it much harder to pirate software that hard working people have paid good money for.

I honestly have no idea if Cubase 10.5 has been pirated, and I have no intention of googling to find out, but I hope that Steinberg do not give into the cries to remove the dongle because it is at least a strong deterent against it being pirated.

I am pretty certain that a lot, if not all, challenge - response software has been compromised, and therefore tempts some people to use that instead of buying the software, which in turn leads to a loss of development income for the companies concerned.

They have different goals. One option is to make it uncrackable and cause an inconvenience for users. The other is compromising. Forget some cracking but maximize the accessibility(=sale) and convenience.

[chk071]

I wouldn't even want to dare to speculate about sales. Steinberg seems to be doing very well with Cubase/Nuendo/Wavelab.

[roman.i]

I think Cubase is not very welcoming for a new potential user "from the internet". Few months ago I tried to demo it, and the installation was a nightmare. They don't provide the full version for demo, and the basic version requires to download tens of GB, because it downloads all the sound packages.
Also, it looks like most of the users who start using Cubase already learned it in school, so the videos on Youtube more about why you need to upgrade from old Cubase to a newer one.
Steinberg is doing very well, in my area Cubase considered de facto standard for music producers and musicians.

[Jim Roseberry]

Nearly every professional composer client we have is running Cubase.
With features like Note-Expression, it's popular with those using advanced sample-libraries.
Where Cubase falls a bit short (IMO) is CPU efficiency.
Running heavy loads at the smallest ASIO buffer size is not Cubase's forte.

[mgw38]

Actually, the USB-C is a good point... at some point, all computers will only have USB-C ports, so, either Steinberg manufactures a new USB-C dongle, or drops eLicenser completely.

yeah. this has been a pain point on other forums. luckily doesnt affect me and shouldn't for a while, hopefully. i dont use the latest Apple hardware in music studio. the dongle is annoying also as it uses up a port all the time for no reason other than being to use the software.

You can dongle the dongle.

Seriously though, MacBook users have been doing that for a while. I think there is a USB-C CodeMeter dongle but not one for iLok or eLicenser.

[AngelosD]

Because cubase sucks.

It's not sexy.

Reaper.

lol...

[AngelosD]

What is wrong with Cubase?

Absolutely nothing.
Many professionals are using it for actual work and don't spend any time whatsoever talking about it on YouTube or the likes of KVR.
Not everything has to be a popularity contest.

Exactly...there are people who don't spend their time bitching about dongles and actually work with the professional software and there are hobbyists with 10000 posts on music forums...

[telecode]

What is wrong with Cubase?

Absolutely nothing.
Many professionals are using it for actual work and don't spend any time whatsoever talking about it on YouTube or the likes of KVR.
Not everything has to be a popularity contest.

Exactly...there are people who don't spend their time bitching about dongles and actually work with the professional software and there are hobbyists with 10000 posts on music forums...

GAS syndrome. collecting DAWs and VSTs that go on sale and not really devoting time learning how to use advanced features.

[Distorted Horizon]

Because cubase sucks.

It's not sexy.

Reaper.

lol...

Don’t take it too seriously

Cubase is as professional as it can get. Personally I just hate the workflow and some weird ways of doing stuff.

[SamDi]

For me it's funny, when people mention, that Cubase might be not professional.

Beside ProTools it's the most professional DAW money can buy. All others (except Reaper maybe) are toys.

The only reason you don't see it the often in YT videos (if it should be really true) like Ableton or FL is that Pros are making money by using it, instead of producing YT videos, explaining noobs the best DAWs in 2020.

One can assume, that also for top producers and artists, which compose with Ableton or FL first, the song will go later into ProTools or Cubase/Nuendo, latest, when it comes for mixing and mastering, but partly already for finishing arrangement.

And I also agree with many here: on professional level, some things which are a big problem in forums, like dongles and rare updates are not relevant (dongle) or even apreciated (rare update rate), because: never change a running productive system (people with a normal job know this maybe from their company, which kept Windows 7 till the bitter end and has an IE which is 3 versions after the current )


(I'm an Ableton & Logic user to not get me wrong)

[chimp_spanner]

What is wrong with Cubase?

Absolutely nothing.
Many professionals are using it for actual work and don't spend any time whatsoever talking about it on YouTube or the likes of KVR.
Not everything has to be a popularity contest.

Exactly...there are people who don't spend their time bitching about dongles and actually work with the professional software and there are hobbyists with 10000 posts on music forums...

Why not both? I work AND I bitch