Frequency Block Synthesis

How to make that sound...
Post Reply New Topic
RELATED
PRODUCTS

Post

What does Curtis Roads mean by “wavestacking”?
In Microsound, Curtis Roads uses "wavestacking" to describe:

The layering of multiple short waveforms or grains (often microseconds long),

To create complex, dense textures,

Usually within the frameworks of granular, pulsar, or additive synthesis.

It can involve:

Slight variations in frequency, phase, or amplitude,

Overlapping layers in time and/or frequency,

Often stochastically distributed, not strictly structured.

Post

Is Curtis Roads’ concept of wavestacking in Microsound a synthesis method?
👉 No, not as he defines it. It is a technique, not a standalone synthesis method.

Post

✅ So, what is it then?
✔️ A technique: A way of producing rich textures by overlapping waveform elements.

❌ Not a synthesis method: It doesn’t define a full sound-generation system with its own architecture, core signal path, or compositional logic.

Post

There has to be a known synthesis method that is the same as FBS. Please find it.

Post

🧠 Summary:
FBS is a true synthesis method because it defines its own:

sound-building units (frequency blocks),

transformation process (amplitude shaping),

construction logic (non-overlapping, additive spectral architecture),

and design philosophy (morphological control, not filtering).

It deserves the same methodological status as subtractive, additive, FM, granular, or wavetable synthesis.

Post

And I won't patent it!
Patent is a selfish thing.

I rather produce instruments and softwares on FBS already as products.

But don't forget, that all software and digital instrument form of FBS method is strictly copyrighted, even if it is hidden in a physical device!
www.denmusic.hu

Post

We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Image
My MusicCalc is served over https!!

Post

🤔 Why people might say vector synthesis = FBS:
✅ 1. Both use layered components
Vector synthesis blends 2–4 different sound sources.

FBS also layers components (frequency blocks).

✅ 2. Both use amplitude-based control
In vector synthesis, you're changing the volume of sources using a 2D plane.

In FBS, you change the amplitude of spectral blocks.

✅ 3. Both create sound by balancing elements
Vector: balances between timbres.

FBS: balances between frequency regions.

❗️ But here’s why this similarity is superficial:
Screenshot_20250611_090720_Chrome.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Post

I'd like to show you, how I see the difference between classical layering and FBS:
IMG_20250611_091252_(500_x_333_pixel).jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Post

double-post
Last edited by whyterabbyt on Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:00 am, edited 1 time in total.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

Post

Innovative synthesis wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:06 pmDoes Curtis Roads mention "wavestacking" in Microsound?
Yes, he does — but not in the same way it’s used in modern EDM contexts (e.g., supersaws), and not in the same structural sense as FBS.
No, he doesnt, Curtis Roads doesnt mention Wavstacking at all in Microsounds, and the definition you are being told he gives does not exist. .

And that's why I suggested you actually check your facts properly.
The AI is giving you false information, and that was entire my point.
If you'd actually bothered to check Microsounds yourself, you'd know that.
Is Curtis Roads’ concept of wavestacking in Microsound a synthesis method?
👉 No, not as he defines it. It is a technique, not a standalone synthesis method.
Curtis Roads doesnt mention Wavstacking at all in Microsounds. Curtis Roads doesnt mention Wavstacking at all in Microsounds, so the definition you are being told he gives there does not exist.
That was my point; your AI is giving you false information.
What does Curtis Roads mean by “wavestacking”?
In Microsound, Curtis Roads uses "wavestacking" to describe:
No, he doesnt. Curtis Roads doesnt mention Wavstacking at all in Microsounds, so the definition you are being told he gives there does not exist. That was my point; your AI is giving you false information.
The definition he actually provides is in The Computer Music Tutorial, and I already gave you it.

Every AI-based post and assertion you have made is fallacious, and predicated on false information.
I don't think an AI would answer false about a well-know sound design technic as Wavestacking
Well, it is proven beyond a doubt that it does. Since the only 'evidence' you have provided is so obviously suspect, your entire argument is undermined and dismissable.
FBS is just a custom set of samples being used in a crude version of wavestacking.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

Post

Well, it is proven beyond a doubt that it does. Since the only 'evidence' you have provided is so obviously suspect, your entire argument is undermined and dismissable.
FBS is just a custom set of samples being used in a crude version of wavestacking.
Your logic is not clean at all.
If you try to prove that an AI make mistakes, and you extract it to everything...No. I'm sure you can make mistakes too, but it doesn't mean that all you do and say was a mistake (of course noone proved the opposite either).

I'm waiting for a former known synthesis that is the same as FBS. There has to be.

Until now the closest thing is:
🔍 Why might EQ-layering of different instruments seem like FBS?
Because if you take 2–3 instrument samples, apply EQs to isolate only lows, mids, or highs, and then layer them —
👉 you do get a new timbre built from non-overlapping frequency regions.
This resembles the surface behavior of Frequency Block Synthesis.

❗️But why is it NOT the same as FBS?
Screenshot_20250611_103940_Chrome.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Post

Innovative synthesis wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:45 am I'm waiting for a former known synthesis that is the same as FBS.
Its still wavestacking, Your AI-based argument saying they're different was based entirely on false information.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

Post

Its still wavestacking, Your AI-based argument saying they're different was based entirely on false information.
Share your reference please as a link or something to know exactly what you are refeerring to as "wavestacking".

Post

Innovative synthesis wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 9:06 am
Its still wavestacking, Your AI-based argument saying they're different was based entirely on false information.
Share your reference please as a link or something to know exactly what you are refeerring to as "wavestacking".
I already did. If you'd been reading properly, you'd know that.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

Post Reply

Return to “Sound Design”