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AD80 wrote: Thats what you call "heavy ladden with bugs and issues"??
Well yes, actually, because they are things which stop Tracktion from having the excellent workflow that it would otherwise have :shrug:
1) Never happens on my system. So most likeley its system specific. :roll:
Quite possibly :shrug: but it is stopping me from using Tracktion as my recording software of choice at present :( . If you or anyone can help, please do.
2) GUI is snappy like T1 over here. See #1.
Erm no, AD80 :!: Several people have reported this, and some are having really serious problems with it. Mentioning that is not "trolling" as you call it, but hopeing to goodness that this might make it onto the "fix it" agenda :roll: .
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4) Already documented bug being worked on.

5) These things were already there when you "loved" T1 so whats with the attacks now?
I stopped loving T1 when these issues began to interfere with my workflow/productivity, which was Summer 2004. At that point I bought Live 4, only to find that there were problems with that too (at that time... Ableton responded brilliantly to request from users to quickly sort out some initial issues with the release) :shock: . Then last December T2 was announced and I assumed that the problems would have been addressed, given the amount of time they had been known issues, the obvious talent of Jules, and the lengthy silence/development time for T2. It never occurred to me that Mackie would do a major launch like this without addressing some or most of the fundamental issues from T1 :shrug:
They're all recognized and are gonna be fixed in future updates.
Are they though? I think quite a few people are legitimately beginning to wonder...
6) :roll: Missing features? Every sequencer has missing features until its perfect for everybody. Which will never happen.

7) Thats just silly. You couldnt even drag the lenghth of multiple notes in T1. T2 is much improved.
I agree some aspects are much better, but there's a whole thread here full of people asking for the toolbar to be dealt with differently (and I didn't even post about it at the time :wink: )
Stop trolling!
You suggested several times that there weren't bugs/issues. I was simply responding to your post AD80 :shrug: . If you call that "trolling", perhaps you should stop "troll baiting" and find something more useful to do :wink:

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headquest wrote: Well yes, actually, because they are things which stop Tracktion from having the excellent workflow that it would otherwise have :shrug:
Tracktions workflow IS excellent. Even with the current issues. 8)
headquest wrote: Quite possibly :shrug: but it is stopping me from using Tracktion as my recording software of choice at present :( . If you or anyone can help, please do.
The only thing stopping you from making music with Tracktion is you. Besides you already have a superior (acording to you) host in LIVE. So why not use that?
headquest wrote: Erm no, AD80 :!: Several people have reported this, and some are having really serious problems with it. Mentioning that is not "trolling" as you call it, but hopeing to goodness that this might make it onto the "fix it" agenda :roll: .
Erm, T2's graphics are perfectly fine on my system. Responsive like T1.
headquest wrote: I stopped loving T1 when these issues began to interfere with my workflow/productivity, which was Summer 2004. At that point I bought Live 4, only to find that there were problems with that too (at that time... Ableton responded brilliantly to request from users to quickly sort out some initial issues with the release) :shock: . Then last December T2 was announced and I assumed that the problems would have been addressed, given the amount of time they had been known issues, the obvious talent of Jules, and the lengthy silence/development time for T2. It never occurred to me that Mackie would do a major launch like this without addressing some or most of the fundamental issues from T1 :shrug:
Every sequencer has issues. We all want T to improve quickly. I've probably reported more bugs than you even. But theres no need to go around claiming that T is so bug laden that you cant make music with it.
headquest wrote: Are they though? I think quite a few people are legitimately beginning to wonder...
Wonder all you want. Its not gonna make the bug fixes get here any faster. Dont believe they're getting fixed? go use Live. Why use something you dont think will be updated. Or do you just wanna cry about things for fun.


headquest wrote: I agree some aspects are much better, but there's a whole thread here full of people asking for the toolbar to be dealt with differently (and I didn't even post about it at the time :wink: )
Oh no, one thread about the tool bar :roll:. Its a small issue when compared to how much they added.
headquest wrote: You suggested several times that there weren't bugs/issues. I was simply responding to your post AD80 :shrug: . If you call that "trolling", perhaps you should stop "troll baiting" and find something more useful to do :wink:


Stop trolling.
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AD80 wrote: The only thing stopping you from making music with Tracktion is you. Besides you already have a superior (acording to you) host in LIVE. So why not use that?
Two reasons:

1. On my recommendation a couple of schools in this area where I work as a visiting keyboard teacher bought Tracktion. At one of them I am presently doing a recording project, and naturally they want it done on the software I advised them to buy, but we're running into difficulties...

2. I do like Tracktion. If that weren't the case I would not be here :roll: . But unlike you, I don't claim/pretend it is free of bugs/issues, that's all.
headquest wrote:Erm, T2's graphics are perfectly fine on my system. Responsive like T1.
Just because you have had no problems does not mean that several other people have no problems :roll: . What a selfish viewpoint!
headquest wrote:Every sequencer has issues. We all want T to improve quickly. I've probably reported more bugs than you even. But theres no need to go around claiming that T is so bug laden that you cant make music with it.
Actually I didn't claim that :roll: . Once again you are overstating your case.
headquest wrote:Wonder all you want. Its not gonna make the bug fixes get here any faster.
I wonder what will...?
Dont believe they're getting fixed? go use Live.
Mostly I do, as you know :wink:
Why use something you dont think will be updated. Or do you just wanna cry about things for fun.
See above.

Plus, having just paid for the upgrade I'd quite like to make some use of it! Again, I think that's fairly reasonable :shrug:

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I have to say the video adds to the hobbyist buzz of tracktion

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headquest wrote: Two reasons:

1. On my recommendation a couple of schools in this area where I work as a visiting keyboard teacher bought Tracktion. At one of them I am presently doing a recording project, and naturally they want it done on the software I advised them to buy, but we're running into difficulties...
Why would you recommend something you didnt fully test for compatability? The Demo version is available is it not? Not very professional of you.
headquest wrote: 2. I do like Tracktion. If that weren't the case I would not be here :roll: . But unlike you, I don't claim/pretend it is free of bugs/issues, that's all.
Unlike me? I never pretended Tracktion didnt have problems, but its not the bug ladden catastrophy you claim it is when you talk about T, especially in comparasin to Live. I never once sayd Tracktion was free of problems. All software DAW's have problems. How many times do I have to say that to get it trough your troll cranium.

headquest wrote: Just because you have had no problems does not mean that several other people have no problems :roll: . What a selfish viewpoint!
Nah the selfish viewpoint is bashing a software app when a problem is possibly system specific. Not everybody has the same problems as you!

headquest wrote:
I wonder what will...?
Uhm lets see, I'm no genius but I'm guessing time for Jules to fix them! You act like he's purposely ignoring issues or something :roll: .


Mostly I do, as you know :wink:
Use whatever the hell you like just dont talk shit about Tracktion in the process.
headquest wrote: See above.
See above.

headquest wrote: Plus, having just paid for the upgrade I'd quite like to make some use of it!
See there it goes again! Are you saying you cant get ANY use out of Tracktion?! Please. Stop trolling.
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Who would have believed it? A thread about something unrelated turns into a lecture on what headquest doesn't like about Mackie/Tracktion and about it's place in the educational market.

You could knock me down with a feather, i'd never have seen it coming.

Oh hang on, here's another one, they're like buses ...

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AD80 wrote:
headquest wrote: Two reasons:

1. On my recommendation a couple of schools in this area where I work as a visiting keyboard teacher bought Tracktion. At one of them I am presently doing a recording project, and naturally they want it done on the software I advised them to buy, but we're running into difficulties...
Why would you recommend something you didnt fully test for compatability? The Demo version is available is it not? Not very professional of you.
:nutter: Not very professional recommending Tracktion :?: :!:

A number of schools here bought Tracktion 1 to use for audio recording, and it works fine for them for that purpose, as well as being far cheaper than the alternative they were considering at the time. (I have upgraded to T2 and am having problems at my end, but they are perfectly happy and have not upgraded). How is that not very professional?

More to the point, who the hell do you think you are to question my professionalism? :x It seems to me that you have nothing constructive to say, but simpoly want to continue being deliberately offensive and cause as much upset as possible. I think that makes you the troll, not me.

If you wish to continue these unwaranted personal attacks you will need to do so on a different thread, because I am stopping watching this one. If you do continue these slurs on my professionalism however I shall be involving the moderators. Grow up.

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AD80 i think you should drop having a problem with people complaining about the gfx issue. it's not very serious for me but the gui is much slower to update than T1s, so i can definitely see that it is a problem for some people. the fact that it's 'system specific' doesn't mean that it's not down to T2 - if it's something that can be addressed then i'm sure it should be addressed. if it turns out that everyone needs an upgrade - fine. but please stop getting angry with people for mentioning it because it is definitely an issue
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haydxn wrote: but please stop getting angry with people for mentioning it because it is definitely an issue
:? I dont get angry at people for mentioning issues. I get angry when they go on other forums trying to promote their host and slagging off Tracktion like its a basket of bugs when in reality it works fine for the majority of people. If you got an issue, report it, make sure Beno reads it, and wait for it to get fixed. What else can you do? Bitching about it wont make it get fixed faster.
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Yeah, no big deal, really, but I didn't find occasional bursts of interruption as exhibiting any humor, just kind of random and out-of-place. Where's the wit in that? It almost seemed like an unprofessional editing job, not something that was meant on purpose. Anyway, otherwise it's a decent video.
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lharless wrote:which brings us back to:

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Not it doesnt.
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