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Hey Bulent, how can i check the version of SM3 i have? i seem to cant find it. Also i cant find the context menu where i can check if there are any updates.

Also, there the distortion module really needs many presets for easy click and play ability :)

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Lbdunequest wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:24 pm Hey Bulent, how can i check the version of SM3 i have? i seem to cant find it. Also i cant find the context menu where i can check if there are any updates.

Also, there the distortion module really needs many presets for easy click and play ability :)
Just click on the settings icon on sm3 logo
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kv331 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:37 pm
Lbdunequest wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:24 pm Hey Bulent, how can i check the version of SM3 i have? i seem to cant find it. Also i cant find the context menu where i can check if there are any updates.

Also, there the distortion module really needs many presets for easy click and play ability :)
Just click on the settings icon on sm3 logo
LOL only now i noticed that gear in the logo is clickable :D I clicked on the logo but not on the gear :lol:

thanks :) are there any thoughts about adding distortion presets?

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Hi
Anyone experiment unexpected result with import preset into layer, like broken patch ?

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Gam456 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:22 pm Hi
Anyone experiment unexpected result with import preset into layer, like broken patch ?
Think this was discussed sometime in the last 4 or 5 pages of this thread...

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Gam456 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:22 pm Hi
Anyone experiment unexpected result with import preset into layer, like broken patch ?
Is the preset using global fx? Global fx is not loaded while loading into a layer
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kv331 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:57 am
gussent wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:19 am Maybe you could consider adding the ability to mark wavetables as favorites and display the favorites folder with priority at the top? The same goes for the preset browser—every time I want to access my favorite or user-created presets, I have to scroll all the way down through the banks list, which is not very convenient.
Done! Not only for wavetables, we can mark any resource (Waveform, Wavetable, Multisample, Single Sample) as favourite. Those favourites are saved under My Documents/SynthMaster3/FavouriteWaveFiles.txt file:


resource favourite.jpg


and to have maximum useability, You can switch between waveform parameters (Like the 4 waveforms for the vector osc and the 8 wavefroms for the additive osc) and the popup window shows that waveform details. No need to close/open the dialog. Just click on the waveform display for the corresponding parameter and the popup switches to that waveform.

and as you can see from the screenshot, you can also load a random resource from the current list.
Cool and fast! =) Regarding preset selection: do you plan to move favorites and user presets to the top of the list?

And about scrolling. I know you've implemented "natural scroll" for macOS, but either I'm missing something, or there are some glitches I just can’t get used to. Natural scroll on macOS with the Magic Mouse works as if you’re moving your finger on a phone screen. If the finger moves up, the content moves up, and the same applies for horizontal scrolling – the content follows the finger.

However, in recent versions, after some changes to scroll behavior, I noticed an inconsistency: with "Reverse mouse wheel" off, scrolling the preset list in the browser is inverted – for the list to go up, I need to move my finger down, which isn’t natural scrolling (Apple even provides an animation in settings to illustrate natural scrolling). I thought maybe I was wrong and turned on the reverse mouse wheel, and scrolling in the browser started working properly, but unfortunately, horizontal scrolling got inverted, and scrolling through tabs, for instance, became a nightmare. =( So, for now, I’ve decided to sacrifice browser scrolling in favor of horizontal scroll. It would be awesome if the scrolling issue could be looked into further and resolved, perhaps with additional settings if necessary.

One more note about scrolling. It feels like the scroll speed needs more fine-tuning. For example, vertical scrolling in the preset browser is too sensitive, and even a small movement scrolls nearly a full page. On the other hand, horizontal scrolling (e.g., the regions area in the sample editor and other horizontal scroll areas) is less responsive than I’d like, requiring more and more vigorous movements to scroll. Again, this is with the Magic Mouse, which doesn’t have discrete scrolling.

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gussent wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:13 am And about scrolling. I know you've implemented "natural scroll" for macOS, but either I'm missing something, or there are some glitches I just can’t get used to. Natural scroll on macOS with the Magic Mouse works as if you’re moving your finger on a phone screen. If the finger moves up, the content moves up, and the same applies for horizontal scrolling – the content follows the finger.
According to Apple, Natural scroll is "Move the contents of a window in the same direction as your fingers":

https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-hel ... 0/mac/15.0

SynthMaster 3 now reads this setting from user preferences on MacOS.

I don't have a "Magic Mouse" so I won't be able to test your issues yet.
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kv331 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:33 am
gussent wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:13 am And about scrolling. I know you've implemented "natural scroll" for macOS, but either I'm missing something, or there are some glitches I just can’t get used to. Natural scroll on macOS with the Magic Mouse works as if you’re moving your finger on a phone screen. If the finger moves up, the content moves up, and the same applies for horizontal scrolling – the content follows the finger.
According to Apple, Natural scroll is "Move the contents of a window in the same direction as your fingers":

https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-hel ... 0/mac/15.0

SynthMaster 3 now reads this setting from user preferences on MacOS.

I don't have a "Magic Mouse" so I won't be able to test your issues yet.
Yes, exactly, natural scrolling should work as Apple describes. However, it doesn’t function correctly in the preset browser. And no, you don’t need a Magic Mouse to test it—I just tried natural scrolling with a regular mouse using the scroll wheel: in web browsers content moves up when the wheel scrolls up, which is correct. In the preset browser, however, the behavior is inverted. If you have access to macOS, you’ll be able to see it yourself.

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gussent wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:59 am Yes, exactly, natural scrolling should work as Apple describes. However, it doesn’t function correctly in the preset browser. And no, you don’t need a Magic Mouse to test it—I just tried natural scrolling with a regular mouse using the scroll wheel: in web browsers content moves up when the wheel scrolls up, which is correct. In the preset browser, however, the behavior is inverted. If you have access to macOS, you’ll be able to see it yourself.
I HAVE access to MacOS. I tested with BOTH a regular mouse AND trackpad. with both Natural scroll turned ON or OFF. It works for me. I compared the behavior to the behaviour on Safari as a real world test.
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kv331 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:03 am
gussent wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:59 am Yes, exactly, natural scrolling should work as Apple describes. However, it doesn’t function correctly in the preset browser. And no, you don’t need a Magic Mouse to test it—I just tried natural scrolling with a regular mouse using the scroll wheel: in web browsers content moves up when the wheel scrolls up, which is correct. In the preset browser, however, the behavior is inverted. If you have access to macOS, you’ll be able to see it yourself.
I HAVE access to MacOS. I tested with BOTH a regular mouse AND trackpad. with both Natural scroll turned ON or OFF. It works for me. I compared the behavior to the behaviour on Safari as a real world test.
I just checked several synthesizers (Vital, Serum, Pigments, Massive), and they don’t have any issues with scroll direction or speed. I’ll try reinstalling SM3; maybe something got cached. If that doesn’t help, well, I guess I'm just unlucky.

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PietW. wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:23 pm Hello, I have a lot of wavetables. I imported them into Synthmaster 2 yesterday and it worked without any problems. Since then, Synthmaster 3 won't start. In the task manager there is a task with Synthmaster 2.9. If I delete this I can start Synthmaster one and Synthmaster2. Synthmaster 3 crashes before the GUI opens. Does Synthmaster 3 access the same wavetables folder?
Hi Piet,

Today I tested the problematic wavetables you sent me (under folder WT)

Hate to say this but they all work on my end :)

I tested with 2 different configurations:

1. I extracted the WT folder you sent me under E:\Wavetables. E:\Wavetables is a user waveform path that I set. SynthMaster 3 detected and loaded all wavetables inside the WT folder.

2. I extracted the WT folder you sent me under My Documents\SynthMaster\Waveforms. Again, SynthMaster 3 detected and loaded all wavetables inside the WT folder.

Can you please delete c:\users\public\public documents\synthmaster3\synthmasterwaveforms.wfdb file and try again ?
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gussent wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:13 am I just checked several synthesizers (Vital, Serum, Pigments, Massive), and they don’t have any issues with scroll direction or speed. I’ll try reinstalling SM3; maybe something got cached. If that doesn’t help, well, I guess I'm just unlucky.
Once again, just to be safe, I spent time testing this on MacOS with 1) trackpad, 2) regular mouse. Natural scroll is turned on under System Preferences -> TrackPad. Works as expected. Finger up / Mouse scroll up moves all lists up, finger down / mouse scroll down moves all lists down.

So, for me this case is closed.
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Magazine Beats Monat 12: Großer Bericht über Synthmaster 3.
Sehr positiv und werbewirksam.

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Latest version crashes Cubase 13. Won't even open and I get a serious error message
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

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