Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

[Uncle E]

What does JRR do?

I added an automatic 5% discount to all Waves products. Unfortunately, we pay more than the other guys do and this is the lowest I can go. :-/

[dwozzle]

One example of thing you could want to do :
-First the sound
- then the 1st delay with a lowpass filter set at 75%
- then the 2nd delay with a lowpass filter set at 50%
- then the 3d delay with a lowpass filter set at 25%
(and so on)

You can do this with PSP Audioware 608 in no time. Unless I'm missing something, you CAN'T do the same echo pattern with Echoboy, you have to use a LFO to simulate it. Don't know if you can do it with Relayer, didn't tried every idea I had when I tried the demo.

So PSP Audioware 608 can totally be useful even if you have Echoboy.

If you mean that each delay is *brighter* than the one before it, I think you're right, you'd need a multitap delay with separate filter settings for each tap.

If you mean that each delay gets *darker* than the one before, most delays with filtering do that, because the filter is inside the feedback loop, so it's cumulative. You can't pick specific filtering amounts for each, the same filtering gets applied repeatedly each time it repeats.

That said, EchoBoy has tons of options, not sure what of this is can and can't do, which I know is the actual bottom line. That said, EchoBoy is an awful lot of people's go-to.

[shroom81]

Just testing out iris2 this shit is "insta"buy for 99$ !

[Numanoid]

Just testing out iris2 this shit is "insta"buy for 99$ !

Think you need to test it thoroughly, it has been reported that it contains many bugs, that the dev is not so keen to iron out

[musikmachine]

Is $40 the best price on Lexicon MXP? That's the price on they're site but it's usually the other sites like JRR, PD etc that have the really good prices but in this case they're a few bucks more...

I'll lower our price to $39. So it's $40 on Lexicon's site?

Cheers dude! Yeah at least it was a couple of days ago.

[Fleer]

What does JRR do?

I added an automatic 5% discount to all Waves products. Unfortunately, we pay more than the other guys do and this is the lowest I can go. :-/

You're our Uncle, Eric

[shroom81]

Think you need to test it thoroughly, it has been reported that it contains many bugs, that the dev is not so keen to iron out

Ok sir thanks for the heads up, I'm not gonna pull the trigger until the 10 day trial period has ended and if it's loaded with bug's I won't buy it. Live has crashed twice already with 2x iris instances in the project but I was trying to load a 48 min drone sample onto a audio track which cause the crash. Live has never been very stable for me tbh :/

[plexuss]

Can anyone tell me something about the PSP delay? Do you have experience with it? What exactly makes it unique and what other delays are comparable? Thanks in advance

I did a bunch of comparisons between Relayer and 608 because I wanted to know for myself if 608 would be worth it. they are similar in that they are multi-tap where each tap has filters and other parameters. In terms of features here are some differences:

- 608 max 8 taps, Relayer max 32 taps
- 608 has a filter on the taps, Relayer has the ability to have 2 effects on each tap
- 608 can have a different filter type per tap, Relayer only one filter type per tap

Relayer has more options and more visualization, its more complex to use until you get used to it. 608 is what you see is what you get, easier to use but not as versatile.

I'd say the main feature benefit of 608 is the ability to put different filters on different taps. that in itself can create delays that Relayer can not.

In terms of sound, they are very different: Relayer has more clear fidelity but also sounds sterile - this is not a bad thing but it is a characteristic of it. 608 sounds warmer and more "acoustic" - i'm not going to say analogue because it doesn't sound like an analogue delay. it has a warmer richer sound than Relayer.

hope that helps.

[Kalamata Kid]

In terms of sound, they are very different: Relayer has more clear fidelity but also sounds sterile - this is not a bad thing but it is a characteristic of it. 608 sounds warmer and more "acoustic" - i'm not going to say analogue because it doesn't sound like an analogue delay. it has a warmer richer sound than Relayer.

I wish you had not said that "608 sounds warmer and more "acoustic""
Now I have to consider getting 608.

[Uncle E]

"Acoustic" is a nice description.

Sale ends in a few hours.

[plexuss]

In terms of sound, they are very different: Relayer has more clear fidelity but also sounds sterile - this is not a bad thing but it is a characteristic of it. 608 sounds warmer and more "acoustic" - i'm not going to say analogue because it doesn't sound like an analogue delay. it has a warmer richer sound than Relayer.

I wish you had not said that "608 sounds warmer and more "acoustic""
Now I have to consider getting 608.

If you listen to the patches in the 608 that use different filters across the taps, these will demonstrate what is unique about 608 compared to Relayer. and, also the over-all sound, make the 608 different enough than Relayer that I can say "they are different". but just a little bit... so you'll have to decide for yourself.

[plexuss]

On another note...

I loaded up on the last UVI sale. I put this track together as an experiment with the soundware. Decided to polish it up and release it...

https://soundcloud.com/musicofplexus/re ... en-species

[db3]

Just demoing 608. Loving it...seems like a no brainer.

[dwozzle]

I demo'd Relayer a bunch when it was first released, and I think previous posters have it pretty right. It has a ton of features, and a very clean/plain sound. On a gut level, it'd be excellent for delay that was part of the composition -- enhancing percussion or other loops or tracks with patterned and possibly effected repeats that essentially become part of the performance. Its huge number of taps and the ways of laying them out "in bulk" according to different strategies are great for that.

EchoBoy seems more for vibe to me, not-reverb space of some sort around a track.

Of course both can do both, but that's how it struck me.

[Numanoid]

Have you checked out the new Music Tech 153 DVD, a 4.1GB download

http://www.musictech.net/2015/09/dvd/