Improvements!
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- KVRer
- 12 posts since 18 Sep, 2009 from New York, NY
Don't know how hard it would be to set this up, but it would be great to have free-running oscillators (or a similar implementation) for monophonic synth patches, so there's no click as the oscillator phase resets itself. Along the lines of this, it would also be helpful to provide an option for monophonic envelopes to begin at their current level for the attack phase initiated by a key press instead of resetting to zero every time a key is pressed. Hope this makes sense. Sorry, that's probably a lot of work to do, but just a thought. Thanks again for all your great work Urs!
- Banned
- 6129 posts since 9 Oct, 2007 from an inharmonious society
The oscillators already have a reset button, which you can click off for free running osc.sadguitarius wrote:Don't know how hard it would be to set this up, but it would be great to have free-running oscillators (or a similar implementation) for monophonic synth patches, so there's no click as the oscillator phase resets itself. Along the lines of this, it would also be helpful to provide an option for monophonic envelopes to begin at their current level for the attack phase initiated by a key press instead of resetting to zero every time a key is pressed. Hope this makes sense. Sorry, that's probably a lot of work to do, but just a thought. Thanks again for all your great work Urs!
The envelopes don't reset if your fingers don't leave the keys in legato or duo modes. I don't know of a synth that does mono were the envelopes don't reset after not playing any notes. Example synth?
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30194 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Yes, the monophonic modes currently trigger a new voice for the next note, which back then was an easy way for me to avoid clicks.sadguitarius wrote:Don't know how hard it would be to set this up, but it would be great to have free-running oscillators (or a similar implementation) for monophonic synth patches, so there's no click as the oscillator phase resets itself. Along the lines of this, it would also be helpful to provide an option for monophonic envelopes to begin at their current level for the attack phase initiated by a key press instead of resetting to zero every time a key is pressed. Hope this makes sense. Sorry, that's probably a lot of work to do, but just a thought. Thanks again for all your great work Urs!
The duophonic mode was supposed to not do that, but I just tried it and it indeed also resets the envelopes. I consider this a bug.
Once the duophonic mode is fixed I'll evaluate chances to make it an option in the monophonic modes.
Oh, and single trigger envelopes are on my list. They are just a little scary because they control the vca and thus if a voice goes on standby or not to save cpu when a voice isn't heard. It's a very critical decision to make.
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- KVRian
- 618 posts since 13 Aug, 2005
I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me if this has been mentioned before, but I'm thinking it would be useful to have a pair of modules, similar to the mixer, one for splitting the signal into mid/side and another for converting mid/side back to stereo. This might be especially useful in Zebrify for doing separate mid/side compression, delays, eq, etc. It would make Zebrify sort of an ultimately flexible channel strip.
Actually, now that I think of it, adding a limiter module would be keen too
And, a module that just shows the waveform like the display in ACE would be way cool and useful for visualizing what is happening in between modules.
Thanks Urs.
Actually, now that I think of it, adding a limiter module would be keen too
And, a module that just shows the waveform like the display in ACE would be way cool and useful for visualizing what is happening in between modules.
Thanks Urs.
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- KVRist
- 295 posts since 17 Feb, 2010
I remember you mention you will consider making a compressor for Uhbik series... Well I think that if you do, it should also have a limiter and a gate inside of it, for his and her pleasure.
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- KVRer
- 12 posts since 18 Sep, 2009 from New York, NY
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov99/a ... ecrets.htmmcnoone wrote: The oscillators already have a reset button, which you can click off for free running osc.
The envelopes don't reset if your fingers don't leave the keys in legato or duo modes. I don't know of a synth that does mono were the envelopes don't reset after not playing any notes. Example synth?
This page contains a very good explanation of what I'm talking about. I think the Korg Mono/Poly is an example of a synth that has this behavior. The DCAM synths can do this as well. It's useful if you have a sound with a long attack and decay and you want to fade the sound out at the end of a line but don't want to start from nothing when you play the next note. Just useful for a particular playing style, that's all. As far as the "free-running" oscillator thing goes, see above for Urs' explanation.
- KVRAF
- 4141 posts since 11 Aug, 2006 from Texas
Have you examined the MSEG when set to Trigger:single mode? As long as notes are played legato the position in the MSEG is maintained.sadguitarius wrote:It's useful if you have a sound with a long attack and decay and you want to fade the sound out at the end of a line but don't want to start from nothing when you play the next note.
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30194 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Yes, but you still can't get the seamless volume envelopes that you get from an accurate analogue model of an envelope. I should be fixing/adding this soon.bmrzycki wrote:Have you examined the MSEG when set to Trigger:single mode? As long as notes are played legato the position in the MSEG is maintained.sadguitarius wrote:It's useful if you have a sound with a long attack and decay and you want to fade the sound out at the end of a line but don't want to start from nothing when you play the next note.
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 18 Nov, 2004 from Orlando, Bitches!
Dunc wrote:Abilty to have the oscillator wave section animate as it morphs thru the table of waves.
Quite impossible to read thru ALL these pages, but this one I'm big on. But don't limit this to just wave morphing, all oscs that are modulated should show animation. I've usually a million routings and sometimes one forgets that LFO 1 runs at 1/2 while LFOG1 runs at 1/8! A simple switchable animated view would make that sooo much easier!
Also, when making spectral curves and what not, maybe holding the shift key can allow you to draw ONE line, w/o affecting another line. I've been trying to recreate some of Albinos old oscs(I used that that before Zebra and still have a lot of presets I created that I'd like to use Zebra for, but I have to make the waveforms as accurate as possible, right?).
And as far as built in effects goes, why not a flanger? Why not?
And maybe a 3-way mixer, too?
I've gotten under the hood of this baby for the last two years, and LOOOOOVVVVEEEE IT! It truly is the greatest softsynth, well synth alone. Period. Virus can suck it. NI can suck it. Alchemy can suck it. Real Analogue can suck it. See that hot chick over there with the Arturia Origin? She can suck it!!! AAS, Largo, and Synth Squad? SUCK IT!!!
Yeah, I likes my Zebra!
Why cry about your own desires, when I could have them and leave you standing in the sadness of your own....
- KVRAF
- 4805 posts since 21 Jan, 2008 from oO
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 18 Nov, 2004 from Orlando, Bitches!
No, why would I?Zork wrote:Hm, did you try the Uhbik Flanger?
Why cry about your own desires, when I could have them and leave you standing in the sadness of your own....
- KVRAF
- 4805 posts since 21 Jan, 2008 from oO
Because its the perfect addition to Zebra and a really great sounding and technical flanger..even capable for 5.1 movements 
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 18 Nov, 2004 from Orlando, Bitches!
And why couldn't Urs incorporate it into Zebra? That would be an improvement, and this thread is named "Improvements", right?Zork wrote:Because its the perfect addition to Zebra and a really great sounding and technical flanger..even capable for 5.1 movements
Why cry about your own desires, when I could have them and leave you standing in the sadness of your own....
- KVRAF
- 1617 posts since 11 Dec, 2008 from Minneapolis
The 'phorus' mode of the ModFX is sort of in and around the area of a flanger. I would guess the reason it's not labeled as a flanger is first, it just goes outside of some ranges typically associated with a flanger. Second, I'd assume it's the kind of digital implementation of flanging that has always been controversial to label 'flanger' since the spectral output of the plug is more like phasing than tape-based flanging. The sideband effect is in some ways better for that sort of flange.
I do think it makes sense to have the ModFX in Zebra and the more nuanced implementations in Uhbik given the nature of either product.
I do think it makes sense to have the ModFX in Zebra and the more nuanced implementations in Uhbik given the nature of either product.
