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tasmaniandevil · Post by **tasmaniandevil** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:10 pm

Sound Author wrote:I'm not sure if anyone has requested this yet, but I would love the ability to snap both the Lower and Upper Global Modulation Limit together and adjust them as one. Would save a bit of fiddling.

You can move them both in tandem by using the mouse wheel.

Sound Author · Post by **Sound Author** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:25 pm

Oh, hey thanks! That was a clever idea

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:37 am

While normally i used the default modes from the tweak page to be close to a real Prophet 5 i found that with patches that use high resonance it could be very nice to explore some of the other filter modes even if those are no longer related to a real Prophet 5. Seemed to be a good idea to include those other modes too.

For someone that found that a polyphonic Repro-1 would be interesting it is nice to have parts of it available in Repro-5.

FWIW at the tweaks page i just dicovered the jumper for changing the filter envelope polarity. Could be quite interesting too for doing certain sounds.

braj · Post by **braj** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:41 am

Ingonator wrote:While normally i used the default modes from the tweak page to be close to a real Prophet 5 i found that with patches that use high resonance it could be very nice to explore some of the other filter modes even if those are no longer related to a real Prophet 5. Seemed to be a good idea to include those other modes too.

FWIW at the tweaks page i just dicovered the jumper for changing the filter envelope polarity. Could be quite interesting too for doing certain sounds.

The tweaks page definitely extends the possibilities, and I just love how it was done "under the hood" so I know in a very class and deliberate way that I am going out of the purist emulation. I just love this plugin the more I play it.

braj · Post by **braj** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:43 am

And thanks again Urs for the generous pre-order thing for Repro-5. That really helped me out, I feel a lot of appreciation.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:53 am

Ingonator wrote:even if those are no longer related to a real Prophet 5.

But they ARE related to a real Prophet 5. They are all CEM 3320 models, just different values/tolerances of surrounding circuitry and gain staging (differences between Pro-One and Prophet-5). You can take them as having different Prophet-5s side by side.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:35 am

EvilDragon wrote:
Ingonator wrote:even if those are no longer related to a real Prophet 5.
But they ARE related to a real Prophet 5. They are all CEM 3320 models, just different values/tolerances of surrounding circuitry and gain staging (differences between Pro-One and Prophet-5). You can take them as having different Prophet-5s side by side.

Of course i know that there are different implementations of a CEM 3320. Both the 2-Pole/4-Pole OB-Xa filters which are seperate circuits per voice and the Synthex multimode filter do use it and i also know that the Pro One (and Repro-1) had a different implementation.

My point was that those other filter modes besides the default "Poly" mode offer options that are different to a CEM3320 as used in a Prophet 5 Rev 3 which was used as a reference for Repro-5.

In the past I was one of those that were actually interested in a polyphonic Repro-1 even if this would sound different compared to a real Prophet 5 Rev3. In the past i used a workaround to play Repro-1 polyphonic which included the Polymind M4L plugin for Live 9. Nice to see that with the tweaks page in Repro-5 i could now come close to this without such workaround. Of course it is also nice that now we have the option to use an authentic emulation of a Prophet 5 Rev 3 too within the same plugin.

pepelogu · Post by **pepelogu** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:09 pm

It would be nice to have Prophet 5 knobs on Repro-5 instead of Pro One knobs.

chrispking · Post by **chrispking** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:31 pm

Geeky question.

I see that the pulse width knob allows you to shape the duty cycle all the way from 0% to 100%. And those are genuine percentage values so that at 50% the pulse is properly square. Sonically though 25% should sound identical to 75% (and they do). On Lush 101 (and Tal Bass Line 101) the pulse width is a slider from 0 to 10, but at 0 the device is actually at 50%. You can't go lower, presumably because there isn't any point. Or is there?

Is there a benefit one way or the other? Is it just a quirk of the Prophet that it did both sides of 50?

stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:47 pm

chrispking wrote:Geeky question.

I see that the pulse width knob allows you to shape the duty cycle all the way from 0% to 100%. And those are genuine percentage values so that at 50% the pulse is properly square. Sonically though 25% should sound identical to 75% (and they do). On Lush 101 (and Tal Bass Line 101) the pulse width is a slider from 0 to 10, but at 0 the device is actually at 50%. You can't go lower, presumably because there isn't any point. Or is there?

Is there a benefit one way or the other? Is it just a quirk of the Prophet that it did both sides of 50?

Yes, especially on low(er) rates and the OSC or LFO is modulating something, the difference will be huge. At least theoretically. Don't know how Repro acts, haven't tested that.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:34 pm

chrispking wrote:Is there a benefit one way or the other? Is it just a quirk of the Prophet that it did both sides of 50?

Out of the top of my head I think this has traditionally been a Roland thing. I can't say if all their analogue synths had this, but many did. While the manual setting always went from 50% - 100%, using a bipolar modulation source (LFO) could actually modulate from 0% to 100%.

I believe it was mainly part of their strategy to promote sweet spots with the parameter ranges, so people wouldn't have problems finding the 50% spot or so.

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:44 pm

pepelogu wrote:It would be nice to have Prophet 5 knobs on Repro-5 instead of Pro One knobs.

I like the bigger P1 knobs, to be honest

joe_b · Post by **joe_b** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:59 pm

I find it a bit inconvenient that the effect bypass switch state and the current modwheel position are not getting saved with the preset. It happened a few times now that i just forgot about this and when loading the patch i was like WTF, I remember this one different... ?!?

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:14 pm

joe_b wrote:I find it a bit inconvenient that the effect bypass switch state and the current modwheel position are not getting saved with the preset. It happened a few times now that i just forgot about this and when loading the patch i was like WTF, I remember this one different... ?!?

If you want to save the Modwheel amount with a patch you could use the small red arrow left to the Modwheel in the GUI. This could also be used as a mod target in the mod matrix so you could e.g. assign aftertouch to the modwheel amount which coresponds to the amount of modulation used with the WHEEL MOD section in the GUI.
By assigning aftertouch to the WHEEL MOD amount you could e.g. add vibrato when using aftertouch.

Yorrrrrr · Post by **Yorrrrrr** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:23 am

Is a newer public beta build going to be posted, or the next RePro build will just be the release on december 12 (AFAIK)?

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