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CANE CREEK · Post by **CANE CREEK** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:38 pm

Hads a bit of bother installing new software today as usual its the dongle problem..

SO here is what i think is a true statement

"sonar uses a serial number where as cubase uses a dongle and i bet theres as many people outhere using cracked versions of cubase as there is sonar..."

So whats the point in a dongle ?

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:40 pm

buy tracktion 2

RoNC

heeb · Post by **heeb** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:48 pm

rpc9943 wrote:buy tracktion 2

RoNC

And why not Sonar?

nuisance sonore · Post by **nuisance sonore** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:54 pm

CANE CREEK wrote: So whats the point in a dongle ?

I think the main point is the false sence of security that it gives to programmers and investors that the fruit of their labor and investement won't be used by freeloaders.

Unfortunately this is very restrictive for legit customers as you probably experienced first hand, and shows very little respect to actual customer base.

As long as companies are upfront about such restrictions though, and not hide such restriction, there is little that consumer right orgasnisation can do; the best bet is to vote with your wallet on this issue, which you obviously chose not to do (or more accurately, you chose to endorse it). As long as peoples keep buying anyway, I'm affraid it's a practice that's here to stay.

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:54 pm

Synchrosoft must have a pretty good sales force. I can see the looks of terror now on the corporate suits as synchrosoft shows them charts, graphs, and short movies of pirates(HAAAAAAAAR!) sharing their applications on P2P...

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:53 pm

So whats the point in a dongle ?

So, what's the point in a serial number? Same logic.

CANE CREEK · Post by **CANE CREEK** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:59 pm

kritikon wrote:
So whats the point in a dongle ?
So, what's the point in a serial number? Same logic.

well i would of fought using the serial method would be alot cheaper for the company and easier for the customer considering everything gets cracked eventually.

Jaeson Merrill · Post by **Jaeson Merrill** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:14 pm

serial numbers CAN be traced back to the owner, so its still worth it.

that way, they can cancel that serial and the user doesnt get all the additional goodies that come with the product.

FLStudio, if my regkey got out, i would be cut off from updates and the forums, or trying out betas

BFD, if my serial got out, same thing.

Dongles are ridiculous.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:19 pm

Dongles are ridiculous.

Well....it's a ridiculous name for them, I agree.

Surely crackers remove traces of original serial numbers etc don't they? If not, how come these people haven't been prosecuted by said companies? Yeah, I take the point about we the users still pay extra for the dongles...

CANE CREEK · Post by **CANE CREEK** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:23 pm

whilst on the subject of dongle's does anydbody know how many license's 1 dongle can hold ?

ive got 3 on mine , hundreds maybe ? just wondering.

Ildon · Post by **Ildon** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:31 pm

Something tells me iLok is only a temporary solution. Once companies see how their software still gets cracked and how customers keep complaining about them, I think they'll look for another method of copy protection. I just hope whatever they may come up with in the future is better.

c_huelsbeck · Post by **c_huelsbeck** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:38 pm

I think Software companies should evolve more into service providers, where your serial together with your personal email address enables you to access additional software, (sample-) content and forums / services etc. That way, the legit user has an incentive not to share his or her serial number and it would be an unobstrusive / non-annoying copy protection.

Ildon · Post by **Ildon** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:42 pm

c_huelsbeck wrote:I think Software companies should evolve more into service providers, where your serial together with your personal email address enables you to access additional software, (sample-) content and forums / services etc. That way, the legit user has an incentive not to share his or her serial number and it would be an unobstrusive / non-annoying copy protection.

Ooh, ooh, I like that idea!

c_huelsbeck · Post by **c_huelsbeck** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:09 pm

I mean, think about it... companies obsessing about how warez "may" hurt their profits and paying huge amounts of development time and money into copy protection could instead use all that energy to give their paying customers more content and making them happy. Also needed is more public education and more immediate contact to the user base (hire some people to participate in non-company forums and talk to the people) and commercial incentives, like giving customers who convert a (warez) friend into a paying customer a plugin of their choice or something like that.

Like MLK said: "I have a dream!"

stag · Post by **stag** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:22 pm

Well, i can sell my legal copies of Steinberg software and trade it for the flvour of the month... Got that punk.

DONGLE BLUES...