KVR Audio

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:22 pm

i THINK its a while since we had a roundup like this but forgive me if it isnt (just trying to help out a couple of members) ...

... please respond here with details (and URLs if possible) of anyone out there in netland who still offers free webspace with ...

> direct / deep linking allowed

> reasonable space

> reasonable bandwidth (ie - enough to host a contest entry each month)

> NO sign-in required for downloading from the webspace

... thanks

slainte

rob

Spe3D · Post by **Spe3D** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:31 pm

I don’t know why for the competition – have the rule where in the case guys need space they can use the auditorium – but – not direct link, and instead post the link to the thread at the auditorium for others to download from.

Kinda solves the problem – I cant have direct linking from the free auditorium website – but guys don’t need to be registered to download from the posts.

Keep in mind there is no limit to disk space at the auditorium or bandwidth limits - or the need for a visitor to be registered to download the song files in the auditorium section - this in part is done by 'not' allowing direct links to files.

Also at the auditorium there is no pop-ups, pop-unders, flashing gif ads, flash ads and other such things to get in the way of a visitor accessing the music.

Best regards,

Peter

scuzzphut · Post by **scuzzphut** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:41 pm

Spe3D wrote:– but – not direct link, and instead post the link to the thread at the auditorium for others to download from.

why?

Spe3D wrote: I cant have direct linking from the free auditorium website

why not ?

genuinely curious

Spe3D · Post by **Spe3D** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:42 pm

scuzzphut wrote:
Spe3D wrote:– but – not direct link, and instead post the link to the thread at the auditorium for others to download from.
why?

Spe3D wrote: I cant have direct linking from the free auditorium website
why not ?

genuinely curious

Becasue its a free service I give artists - and I am the one who funds it

Best regards,

Peter

kovacs · Post by **kovacs** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:50 pm

Rob, are there any stats available as to how much space and bandwitdh a regular compo requires? I might have a solution depending on what loads are expected (no promises).

Spe3D · Post by **Spe3D** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:52 pm

kovacs wrote:Rob, are there any stats available as to how much space and bandwitdh a regular compo requires? I might have a solution depending on what loads are expected (no promises).

It does not take much B/W or load untill the facking radio by one of the mods kicks into it - cut that out of the equation and you will be sorted imo. Amount of times I have asked that he hosts the files rather than leach them - Or - simply not link to them - I just stopped all direct linking at that point - even had to put blocks in place at one point.

Its not just the auditorium I host – I host a lot of free sites that also get caught up in this thing each month = bigger load then (I gave him a list of domains, domain extensions and sub domains that I use, so he could get an idea of the immensity of the problem he causes) - worse than that he even has archives of the direct links. Dont forget too this is just 'one' example of the 'benifts' of direct linking in a big scale.

So if you do something - keep that in mind.

Best regards,

Peter

scuzzphut · Post by **scuzzphut** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:15 pm

Spe3D wrote:
scuzzphut wrote:
Spe3D wrote:– but – not direct link, and instead post the link to the thread at the auditorium for others to download from.
why?

Spe3D wrote: I cant have direct linking from the free auditorium website
why not ?

genuinely curious
Becasue its a free service I give artists - and I am the one who funds it

Best regards,

Peter

Peter - please don't think I was criticising.
I know that it's a free service.

I'm trying to understand the cost to you between a deep linked file downloaded and a referral to a download page (which surely incurs the bandwidth involved in delivering the page and then the download).

as I said - genuinely curious

<edit> just read your comments on the radio thing - that explains a lot

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Sepheritoh · Post by **Sepheritoh** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:39 pm

The hosting of a single song can take a fair bit of BW. I had a quick look at my (paid for) site stats.

A contest entry can take anything from abotu 260MB to 500MB bandwidth in the month it is posted and it tends to take another about 100MB the forst month thereafter. It all depends on the number of entries. A good month that requires half Gb per song for about 100 songs would therefore need BW of about 50GB per month to host all the entries.

Bandwidth here get sold by 3GB, which means that hosting the entries will cost a fortune.

It is clear to me that it is unreasonable to expect Markleford to pay for that bandwidth by hosting all the songs himself. The same goes for Peter. We just can not expect them to pay for it without at the least get a bit of advertising out of it by not allowing direct links.

Just my 2c

scuzzphut · Post by **scuzzphut** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:23 pm

Sepheritoh wrote: We just can not expect them to pay for it without at the least get a bit of advertising out of it by not allowing direct links.

..........and there's the enlightenment.

flex42 · Post by **flex42** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:41 pm

woahh!! miss marple in action...

Sepheritoh · Post by **Sepheritoh** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:12 pm

scuzzphut wrote:
Sepheritoh wrote: We just can not expect them to pay for it without at the least get a bit of advertising out of it by not allowing direct links.
..........and there's the enlightenment.

But I still do not see anything wrong with it.

kovacs · Post by **kovacs** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:26 pm

If anti-deeplinking is a way to avoid losing money I have no problems with Spe3D's reasoning. But maybe it would be better to get someone to sponsor an FTP site for the contests instead.

On my shared server account I have 80Gigs of transfer per month at $25/month. Maybe we should get something like that and get a couple of sponsors to pay for it.

Just some thoughts...

scuzzphut · Post by **scuzzphut** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:21 am

Sepheritoh wrote:
scuzzphut wrote:
Sepheritoh wrote: We just can not expect them to pay for it without at the least get a bit of advertising out of it by not allowing direct links.
..........and there's the enlightenment.

But I still do not see anything wrong with it.

neither do I
I was looking at it from a purely practical point of view, which meant that I didn't see the "free advertising" angle until you pointed it out.

Glassback · Post by **Glassback** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:34 am

Just a thought, but as a musician wanting to load tracks for access to others, rather than going round in circles with this anti-deep-linking thing (which I understand, incidentally), why not look for the most reasonable deal and get your own space at a fair price?
Then you can upload and link to your hearts content - or until you've used your bandwidth depending on which deal you go for.
I would have thought that having your own space to put your songs is a must-have.
You can get some good deals at low prices, so why not just set your own sites up?

Here's a starting point. It's who I use. I know pHz asked for free sites, but if linking to songs is a problem with them... also your song would be able to go onto the radio thingy, no problem.

http://order.1and1.co.uk/xml/order/Host ... _lf=Static
I pay £4.99 a month and have no complaints.
Including VAT, that's approx £70 a year. Or just under £1.50 a week, to do what I want, when I want, how I want.

Spe3D · Post by **Spe3D** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:45 am

And here is another starting point for paid sites - as you brought it up glassback

http://hosting.audioshots.com

Best regards,

Peter

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