Do you use Kyma?
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- KVRian
- 607 posts since 25 Apr, 2005 from Orange County
how do you like it? What do you mainly use it for?
what are the pros and cons of the software?
what are the pros and cons of the software?
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- KVRAF
- 1891 posts since 9 Oct, 2004 from Columbus,Ohio
What the hell is this all about? This is the second time i've seen a post and then a reply like this. 
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- 35502 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
snooky's a fuckwit troll, that's all.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 607 posts since 25 Apr, 2005 from Orange County
lol what did I say?
Kyma must have a bad name around here?
Kyma must have a bad name around here?
- addled muppet weed
- 111306 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
no just none of us can afford it 
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- KVRAF
- 2017 posts since 21 Mar, 2002 from Hutchinson, Kansas
I use it, and love it. Kyma can do anything you can imagine, assuming you have the will and patience to learn the interface. It doesn't come cheap...a basic system will cost about three and a half grand, and if you want to do anything like realtime processing of the inputs, you'll need to add plenty of DSP cards (at $595 apiece). I have three cards, with four more on the way. I am sure I will still want more. Still, it is worth the cost. So far, I have not heard anything else out there that can come anywhere near Kyma's resynthesis abilities. As I have pointed out many times before, the resynthesis is so good that you can resynthesize a vocal recording and even capture the character of the mic pre (assuming you have the DSP, of course!).
The interface can be very, very deep. You can even go so far as to create your own modules (called "prototypes" in Kyma-speak) in Smalltalk. You don;t have to go that deep. You can do a whole lot of stuff simply by dragging and dropping prototypes into a Sound.
Kyma is not something to enter into lightly. I always recommend that people buy the Kyma Revealed manual (the cost can be put towards your Kyma purchase), before jumping in. It might cost a few bucks, but it'd be best to know if Kyma is for you before spending thousands.
For me, it is the ultimate sound design tool. Nowadays when a new piece of gear or software is making a splash, I tend not to thing "I want that", but rather "I wonder how long it would take to make that in Kyma". Just this week I made a pretty good replacement for my Roland V-Synth!
EDIT: thought I'd give you an idea of the things I have used it for lately.
Off of the top of my head, other things I have used Kyma recently for are multiband compression, BBE processing, Prophet 5 emu, algorythmic sequencer, chopping loops and audio and rearranging them according to the pitch of an audio input (my voice), using dynamic level to control the pitch of a choir, vocoding, morphing my voice into a snippet of guitar, re-pitching a vocal track, using a tablet and stylus to control the playback rate, pitch and harmonic content of a resynthesis dialogue sample, randomly chopping up and rearranging and remixing four loops, making an additive choir sing my lyrics, using a tablet to morph rhythms into each other, sending algorithmic MIDI sequences and CCs to my modular synth, FM synthesis, granular reverb tails that morph into a child's voice....there's lots more.
The interface can be very, very deep. You can even go so far as to create your own modules (called "prototypes" in Kyma-speak) in Smalltalk. You don;t have to go that deep. You can do a whole lot of stuff simply by dragging and dropping prototypes into a Sound.
Kyma is not something to enter into lightly. I always recommend that people buy the Kyma Revealed manual (the cost can be put towards your Kyma purchase), before jumping in. It might cost a few bucks, but it'd be best to know if Kyma is for you before spending thousands.
For me, it is the ultimate sound design tool. Nowadays when a new piece of gear or software is making a splash, I tend not to thing "I want that", but rather "I wonder how long it would take to make that in Kyma". Just this week I made a pretty good replacement for my Roland V-Synth!
EDIT: thought I'd give you an idea of the things I have used it for lately.
Off of the top of my head, other things I have used Kyma recently for are multiband compression, BBE processing, Prophet 5 emu, algorythmic sequencer, chopping loops and audio and rearranging them according to the pitch of an audio input (my voice), using dynamic level to control the pitch of a choir, vocoding, morphing my voice into a snippet of guitar, re-pitching a vocal track, using a tablet and stylus to control the playback rate, pitch and harmonic content of a resynthesis dialogue sample, randomly chopping up and rearranging and remixing four loops, making an additive choir sing my lyrics, using a tablet to morph rhythms into each other, sending algorithmic MIDI sequences and CCs to my modular synth, FM synthesis, granular reverb tails that morph into a child's voice....there's lots more.
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- KVRist
- 43 posts since 25 Apr, 2004
Scot Solida wrote: Off of the top of my head, other things I have used Kyma recently for are multiband compression, BBE processing, Prophet 5 emu, algorythmic sequencer, chopping loops and audio and rearranging them according to the pitch of an audio input (my voice), using dynamic level to control the pitch of a choir, vocoding, morphing my voice into a snippet of guitar, re-pitching a vocal track, using a tablet and stylus to control the playback rate, pitch and harmonic content of a resynthesis dialogue sample, randomly chopping up and rearranging and remixing four loops, making an additive choir sing my lyrics, using a tablet to morph rhythms into each other, sending algorithmic MIDI sequences and CCs to my modular synth, FM synthesis, granular reverb tails that morph into a child's voice....there's lots more.
i want one...
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 30 Sep, 2003 from Sunny Staffordshire
I think the cool thing about Kyma is that it makes all these features very 'accessible'. With other languages, you need to be an absolute consumate boffin to do things like Scot just described. Csound has equally infinite possibilites, but is far less accessible.
If I could afford it, I would buy Kyma in an instant. But then again, if you've heard anything of mine, you'll realise that I love this kind of sound design. There is no chance I would buy Kyma for anyone or two or its features.
For example, dont spend five grand on this system because you heard it does the best'ist resynthesis, lol (believe me, you wouldnt be the first!). Buy Kyma for the unlimited audio manipulation possibilites.
PS. Scot, fancy swapping your Capybara for my copy of Winsound 4.23? Just for a couple of weeks
If I could afford it, I would buy Kyma in an instant. But then again, if you've heard anything of mine, you'll realise that I love this kind of sound design. There is no chance I would buy Kyma for anyone or two or its features.
For example, dont spend five grand on this system because you heard it does the best'ist resynthesis, lol (believe me, you wouldnt be the first!). Buy Kyma for the unlimited audio manipulation possibilites.
PS. Scot, fancy swapping your Capybara for my copy of Winsound 4.23? Just for a couple of weeks
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- KVRist
- 199 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from NYC
Scot can you post a clip of this:
granular reverb tails that morph into a child's voice
granular reverb tails that morph into a child's voice
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- KVRAF
- 4143 posts since 7 Sep, 2001 from Melbourne, Australia
God - I was going to jump in and say that Scot has Kyma, but he's already seen the thread and jumped right in.
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