KVR Audio

Adambomb337 · Post by **Adambomb337** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:54 am

How well does it work? is it better than FXteleport?

AKJ · Post by **AKJ** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:27 am

I do not know about FXteleport but I use V-Stack and it's absolutely great for live use. neever crashed here, very light in cpu-use and all you need for a live host. if you get it, make sure ti get the cd version (it does not need online activation)

bets, akj

Sepheritoh · Post by **Sepheritoh** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:34 am

Could someone please explain to me how V-Stack works. I was not even aware that it could do the same job as FXTeleport.

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:51 am

You'll need two light pipe cards as synchs digitally across one channel, or at least part of one channel. I could never get it to work between VStack and Cubase SX 1 doing sample accurate synch. Go with FX Teleport unless you use Steinberg on both ends.... that is, if you want to be sample accurate in synch. If not, then it's doable without Steinberg stuff, and I could get it to work no problem without the sample accurate synch.

Besides, looking at the Steinberg store, I don't even see it for sale anymore? There was a bug with it that your connection between systems dropped after several hours. Not so bad if you reboot every day, but if you leave your studio up 24x7, you were forced to reboot. Not sure if that was ever fixed either?

Devon

Treeper · Post by **Treeper** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:51 pm

The main advantage of FXTeleport over VStack is that everything can be done from the screen of your main PC. You can edit the VSTi's in Local mode, then flip to Lan mode to run them on the 2nd PC. In VStack, any edits made have to be done on the 2nd machine running VStack.

Setups would also have to be saved on the 2nd PC and loaded up correctly with the correct song on the 1st PC.
FXTeleport saves all info with the song data on the host PC.

You also need two soundcards with digital I/O for VStack - on FX teleport, the 2nd PC wouldn't need a soundcard. VStack I'm sure is great for live work or layering sounds, but I reckon FX Teleport edges it for studio VSTi use.

x3em · Post by **x3em** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:16 pm

Yeah I agree with all that (have the cd version as well, so I was unaware that you need to activate online with the download version). The only other downer I know about with V-Stack is that it does not have midi sync.

AKJ wrote:I do not know about FXteleport but I use V-Stack and it's absolutely great for live use. neever crashed here, very light in cpu-use and all you need for a live host. if you get it, make sure ti get the cd version (it does not need online activation)

bets, akj

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:31 pm

x3em wrote:Yeah I agree with all that (have the cd version as well, so I was unaware that you need to activate online with the download version). The only other downer I know about with V-Stack is that it does not have midi sync.

I *THINK* it had midi sync, but only to 120 BPM, and it wasn't changable.

Devon

Adambomb337 · Post by **Adambomb337** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:59 pm

thanks for the help! Does anyone know of anything else to use? The only options I know of are V-Stack, FXteleport, and Receptor.

Winston · Post by **Winston** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:22 am

The most recent version of V-stack does have midi-sync and it is changeable.

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:38 am

Winston wrote:The most recent version of V-stack does have midi-sync and it is changeable.

Oh good. I know quite a few people complained about it back in the pre-fxteleport days. I never hear anyone talk about VStack anymore though.

Devon

Adambomb337 · Post by **Adambomb337** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:13 am

I use cubase so do you think this v-stack would be better than fxteleport in this case?

Also use fl studio though. Would it work with that?

Scotty · Post by **Scotty** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:24 am

If you are using Cubase SE , SX or SL you can get sample accurate sync never mind lowly midi sync. I have V-Stack installed on two computers and I have them connected using system-link. With system link you can lock the computers together as if it was one unified system. I have an RME card with 3 adat pairs. This is my main box with Cubase SX installed. I have two cpus with emu 1212m cards installed running V-STACK. They all lock to system link and it is absolutely rock solid with sample accurate sync. I experimented with fx teleport with poor results. System link works. You need audio cards that support it and you must be running Cubase SE, SL or SX as a master and use V-Stack or another version of Cubase (at least Cubase 5.2r2 or greater) as a slave. I can confirm that the rme pci cards support it as does the Emu 1212m. Not too many people use system link but I make extensive use of it and it is fantastic.

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:35 am

Scotty wrote:System link works. You need audio cards that support it and you must be running Cubase SE, SL or SX as a master and use V-Stack or another version of Cubase (at least Cubase 5.2r2 or greater) as a slave. I can confirm that the rme pci cards support it as does the Emu 1212m. Not too many people use system link but I make extensive use of it and it is fantastic.

Wish the Puslar II and Frontier Designs Dakota worked for that combination. I gave up trying. The documentation was poor at best for how to get it set up, and nothing for really helping you troubleshot the problem. I'd love to see a VStack 2.0 with better functionality that's akin to FX Teleport like being able to select and save everything from your master DAW system.

Devon

Scotty · Post by **Scotty** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:34 pm

Devon , I would like to see the audio card makers state if there cards support it. I posted to the EMU site and no one even knew what I was talking about. The RME cards seem to work with everything. The emu card 1212m work well but I didn't know that before hand. There is little information available to tell you that. I was also able to test a digi02 rig for a few minutes with a friend's system and it also appeared to work with systemlink.

On the negative side, I wasted hours trying to get windows 98 with my two Oasys cards to support systemlink running Cubase 5.2r2 as systemlink slaves with my RME based DAW master system.

I don't doubt your experience with your Dakota cards but I am surprised, I would have thought that those workhorses would be up to it.

Adambomb337 · Post by **Adambomb337** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:17 am

Thanks scotty! What is system link?

anyone use V-Stack? better than FXteleport?