I currently use Fruity Loop Producer edition and my friends Cubase SX to write my tunes but recently i was offered Reason at a cheap price off a friend who has just brought a mac (and therefore has no use for a windows version)..
Is reason any good for audio (which will then be touched up with plug-ins)? and will i have any problesm registering (or even being able to use the product - by this i mean that he has probably himself already entered the serial code etc)?
Thanks again (this forum is so useful!)
Reason
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- KVRAF
- 4822 posts since 14 Mar, 2002 from Somewhere else, on principle
Odd, I tought that Reason came on a cross-platform disk? 
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- KVRist
- 457 posts since 14 Aug, 2001
As far as I am aware, the Reason installation CDs have both PC and Mac versions. Propellerheads will transfer licences without any problem, but your friend will forfeit the right to use that copy (and serial number) on PC and Mac, so you need to be sure that he is transferring all rights to you with the Props before buying it.
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- KVRAF
- 3617 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from Bradford - The Armpit of Britain
yep - cross platform.
As long as he also gives you the authorisation card you are ok - the props licence transfer is simple & straightforward, but you must have the authorisation card if you are purchasing it second hand, just for safety's sake - then if there are ever any questions as to legitimacy you can fax/scan the card & send that to the props.
In my opinion reason is extremely capable, if it's not reason 3 i'd advise you to upgrade if you do purchase it - others opinions may differ.
As long as he also gives you the authorisation card you are ok - the props licence transfer is simple & straightforward, but you must have the authorisation card if you are purchasing it second hand, just for safety's sake - then if there are ever any questions as to legitimacy you can fax/scan the card & send that to the props.
In my opinion reason is extremely capable, if it's not reason 3 i'd advise you to upgrade if you do purchase it - others opinions may differ.
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- KVRist
- 284 posts since 13 Jul, 2005 from Longview, WA
actually, reason does NOT record audio. was that part of your first question? regardless, people really like that app. so, if the price is right and you can get this license transfer figured out id pick it up. i havent used reason sice version 2.0, but what im hearing about v 3.0 is making me curious again.......
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
Yup, as dopet mentioned Reason will not record audio. In fact, it has no audio input of any kind. You can load any length of .wav file into a sample player, then play it back within Reason and through any chain of Reason devices you like. It's a bit of a work-around but it does work.
Make certain that it is a legitimate copy -- genuine Reason CD-ROMs are dual-platform, and should work equally well on PC or Mac. Pirated versions often seem to work on a single platform for reasons I won't go into.
Above all else, be SURE you get that authorization card! It's a credit card-like thingy, made of sparkly blue-gray plastic. Without that you have nothing.
Reason's a great program if you like its rack-of-devices metaphor, especially good if you enjoy routing CV cables and such on the "back of the rack." Just remember it's not a host according to many people's definition, and that it hasn't audio inputs or MIDI outputs.
@dopet, 3.0 was a HUGE leap forward IMO. It didn't contain what I expected but what they did add was more deeply evolutionary. It's still very efficient, so even when using Combinators packed full of other modules you get surprisingly light CPU loads. The upgrade price is very, erm, reasonable.
Oh, yes -- also for dopet: if you've not seen 2.5 either, you'll have all those improved effects units that came in 2.5 to play with, plus the audio and CV Spiders... lotsa new goodies.
Make certain that it is a legitimate copy -- genuine Reason CD-ROMs are dual-platform, and should work equally well on PC or Mac. Pirated versions often seem to work on a single platform for reasons I won't go into.
Above all else, be SURE you get that authorization card! It's a credit card-like thingy, made of sparkly blue-gray plastic. Without that you have nothing.
Reason's a great program if you like its rack-of-devices metaphor, especially good if you enjoy routing CV cables and such on the "back of the rack." Just remember it's not a host according to many people's definition, and that it hasn't audio inputs or MIDI outputs.
@dopet, 3.0 was a HUGE leap forward IMO. It didn't contain what I expected but what they did add was more deeply evolutionary. It's still very efficient, so even when using Combinators packed full of other modules you get surprisingly light CPU loads. The upgrade price is very, erm, reasonable.
Oh, yes -- also for dopet: if you've not seen 2.5 either, you'll have all those improved effects units that came in 2.5 to play with, plus the audio and CV Spiders... lotsa new goodies.
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- KVRAF
- 9220 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN
That all depends on when you jumped on the Reason bandwagon. Because I've been on the bandwagon since 1.0, the only authorization card I have is the old tan paper one for 1.0. My 2.0 serial number was enclosed in a letter, and my 3.0 update has a green cardboard card with an upgrade ID and verification number.Meffy wrote:Above all else, be SURE you get that authorization card! It's a credit card-like thingy, made of sparkly blue-gray plastic. Without that you have nothing.
I want sparkly plastic
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A spectral heretic...
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- KVRist
- 284 posts since 13 Jul, 2005 from Longview, WA
meffy, meffy, why must you torture me so? 
effiency is where reason shines for sure. i used the older versions on my p3 350Mhz machine. it was the only 'vsti' thing i could run at the time. ahhh, memories.....
effiency is where reason shines for sure. i used the older versions on my p3 350Mhz machine. it was the only 'vsti' thing i could run at the time. ahhh, memories.....
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 22 posts since 4 Nov, 2005
Some awesome contributions to this thread - this will help me lots thank you!
So if i was to get reason is it the general consenus that i should keep Cubase on my laptop for the recording audio element?
How is the drum programming on reason? Apparently nothing compares to fruity loops (what i already have)
Also im aware that everything is about opinion and there is probably no host which is better than any other but the mor opinions i get the better!
So if i was to get reason is it the general consenus that i should keep Cubase on my laptop for the recording audio element?
How is the drum programming on reason? Apparently nothing compares to fruity loops (what i already have)
Also im aware that everything is about opinion and there is probably no host which is better than any other but the mor opinions i get the better!
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- KVRAF
- 9220 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN
Heavens, yes. Also, you can ReWire Reason into Cubase, essentially turning Reason into a giant synth rack inside Cubase. That's the way I usually use Reason these days- ReWired into either Sonar or Live.markisace wrote:So if i was to get reason is it the general consenus that i should keep Cubase on my laptop for the recording audio element?
According to who?How is the drum programming on reason? Apparently nothing compares to fruity loops (what i already have)
ReDrum is excellent- it's why you see lots of posts around here asking about a ReDrum style drum machine as a VSTi
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A spectral heretic...
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- KVRAF
- 7317 posts since 7 Mar, 2003
Reason is a brilliant piece of kit. Definitely one of the best software programs for music out there.
If its legit, go for it.
If its legit, go for it.
My Youtube Channel - Wires Dream Disasters
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 22 posts since 4 Nov, 2005
Awesome.. As far as drums are concerned - although i do use some electronic sounding beats i prefer to use accoustic sounds. Im i still better off downloading samples of real sounding kit or is the reason drum kit suitable for this?
(if anyone fancied uploading a few loops they creating using reason - just so i could get a better idea that'd be ace!!)
(if anyone fancied uploading a few loops they creating using reason - just so i could get a better idea that'd be ace!!)
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- KVRAF
- 9220 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN
The factory drums are OK. The Reason drum refill's supposed to be excellent, though.
And, if you need a bigger kit (the ReDrum kit's only eight instruments), you can run multiple ReDrums together. If you want a big multisampled kit, write your ReDrum patterns to a MIDI track using the pattern to track command and export the MIDI track. THen, you can import the track into Cubase and use it with your sound source of choice.
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And, if you need a bigger kit (the ReDrum kit's only eight instruments), you can run multiple ReDrums together. If you want a big multisampled kit, write your ReDrum patterns to a MIDI track using the pattern to track command and export the MIDI track. THen, you can import the track into Cubase and use it with your sound source of choice.
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A spectral heretic...
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- KVRAF
- 3617 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from Bradford - The Armpit of Britain
Redrums not multi-layered, so not the best for realistic acoustic kits - The RDK refill is very good though & very affordable, utilising the NNXT sampler, combis & effect routing to very good effect.
TBH although I really appreciate reason & like redrum (& have a shit-load of kits for it)I have been playing with the GURU demo after having seen it in action at a mates studio (he also has stylus rmx which, while no doubt being excellent, didn't really have an impact on me) & it is really tempting me - again probably not the best for realistic acoustic kits (a maximum of eight velocity layers), but it feels like a 'real' drum/groove machine - very good fun.
TBH although I really appreciate reason & like redrum (& have a shit-load of kits for it)I have been playing with the GURU demo after having seen it in action at a mates studio (he also has stylus rmx which, while no doubt being excellent, didn't really have an impact on me) & it is really tempting me - again probably not the best for realistic acoustic kits (a maximum of eight velocity layers), but it feels like a 'real' drum/groove machine - very good fun.