KVR Audio

ohm · Post by **ohm** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:24 pm

Since everybody is giving away christmas presents, I've been working hard to finish this major update before Christmas. The update is free, and the price remains unchanged.

I post this in the effects section because LiveSlice now has the possibility of operating as an realtime effect allowing you to record loops - live - for instant LiveSlicing. You can record in sync with the host so you can quickly record and rearrange your tracks.Why use the same drum variation through a whole track? Simply record the two bar loop and rearrange it in a visual envoronment.

The recording offers a special "effect mode" in which audio is constantly being recorded and updated - kind'a like the random rearranger plugins we all love, but with more control.

Additionally this release includes a number of workflow improvements the most significant being Drag'n'Drop support. New flash demos will be available soon.
Already from version 1.25 (a "silent update") all reported bugs were fixed - this is the reason I've been able to focus on the many new features

Please try the demo
And let me know what you think - All comments are appreciated
Read the full story here

New since 1.2:

Live input
Drag'n'Drop slices to tracks
Preview slices in the arranger
Midi through
Loops can now be renamed and saved with a different filename
When a loop is not found on disk (ie a new recording) it is automatically saved with the song
New feature: stretch - automatically pitches all events to make the duration match the project tempo
Manual sync will now override host sync information (workaround for hosts that provide incorrect sync info)
Clicking middle mouse button on a parameter will reset (before it would clear the event underneath)
Manual sync will now override host sync information (workaround for hosts that provide incorrect sync info)
Zoom in slicer improved. Reduced the general wobblyness, Zoom / Pan is now activated on double click
Manual updated

bugfixes:

fixed a bug in the file browser that could lead to crashes
fixed problem with some controls not responding when running multiple instances of LiveSlice
Quantize would allow overlapping events - fixed
Fixed tempo problem in Sonar using DirectiXer
Slices were not reversed in the gui
Loop output settings are now cleared on "clear all"
First event in a track would have too high attack and release
Snap no longer affects "lock to loop"
Error checking when importing cue-points as slices (fixes "silent slices"
and "wrong slice num. reported" bugs)
Setting a midi controller to event and then to track mode caused the parameter to stop responding
Manual sync would sometimes cause double triggering of the first event
Gridlines going solid bug fixed
Fixed crashes when triggering empty arrangements and using manual sync

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:31 pm

Oooh, just got my email, but sadly must now go to work. Can't wait to give it a try later.

Cheers,
Steve

paradiddle · Post by **paradiddle** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:47 pm

That effect thingy works good and quite an excellent new features for resampling stuff!

Ever though about adding timestretching per slice on or off?

ohm · Post by **ohm** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:54 pm

Ever though about adding timestretching per slice

I definately have plans about timestretching, and I agree that it should be a feature that can be turned on or off. Furthermore I plan to add different timestretching modes like "spectral, granular, xtra lo-fi, loop-the-tail.
I have to eat though, so I can't spend all my time with LiveSlice - the project is a bit too "idealistic" to pay the bills

R.A.W. · Post by **R.A.W.** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:54 pm

paradiddle wrote:Ever though about adding timestretching per slice on or off?

it's on the list, but i think that'll come with v2

great update btw!

paradiddle · Post by **paradiddle** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:38 pm

I definately have plans about timestretching, and I agree that it should be a feature that can be turned on or off. Furthermore I plan to add different timestretching modes like "spectral, granular, xtra lo-fi, loop-the-tail.

That sounds really great! Filtering by slice could be interesting though but I'm sure you must have though of that also. Kind of like beatcreater live and on steroids.

I have to eat though, so I can't spend all my time with LiveSlice - the project is a bit too "idealistic" to pay the bills

I understand quite well. I definitely plan on buying your plugin in the near future but I don't have much work in the winter so I'm out of money for the moment.

Anyway you don't know what's up ahead for you. Some big company might notice your things and hire you to do some things or a partnership with another developer. Who knows?

ohm · Post by **ohm** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:10 pm

Bump: Just to let you know that the demo version of liveslice can work as a realtime effect with no limitations - the only limitation of the demo is that you cannot reload audio - this doesn't prevent you from using it as a realtime audio mangler plugin though

Note that only the full version of liveslice comes with a special "effect version" that must be used if your host does not allow audio sent to instruments (cubase suffers from this limitation for instance)

sonicfire · Post by **sonicfire** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:38 pm

Holy cow!

This is ONLY $59? Ok, it´s mine in the new year

funkychickendance · Post by **funkychickendance** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:51 pm

ohm wrote:Since everybody is giving away christmas presents, I've been working hard to finish this major update before Christmas. The update is free, and the price remains unchanged.

Cool.

I've had my eye on this for a while, having entered the VST world this fall from 'real' instruments and looped samples. The concept is brilliant, and I can see it enables you to do things that would take forever in, say, Sound Forge...

The only thing that's stopped me -- oh, okay, lack of money is perpetually in there too, because I buy too much 'stuff' -- is the suspicion that this gizmo has a monster learning curve before one can produce anything that is non-chaotic...or am I wrong?

A few words from real users might reassure me that this isn't "experts only"... As a point of reference, I absolutely love the long drum/perc improv "Damp 1" and the Bitmud 'demo tune' on the site...They really work, and I think I can even identify some of the loop sources!

Before I blow several hours on "try the demo, dummy!

", can someone comment on 'ease of use' aspects? As in, is it enough to be musical, or do you have to be a techie or super-pro sound designer, too?

/fcd

R.A.W. · Post by **R.A.W.** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:24 pm

funkychickendance wrote:is the suspicion that this gizmo has a monster learning curve before one can produce anything that is non-chaotic...or am I wrong?
...
Before I blow several hours on "try the demo, dummy! ", can someone comment on 'ease of use' aspects?

try the demo

seriously, the basics are very easy, just load a loop, drag on the sens-slider and hit the random-button. this already gives you the idea. the next step is to just drag slices to the tracks and build your own loop.. simple as that.
there are still some really cool features which are a little more complicated, but the manual can help there as well as the helpful users in the company-forum here at kvr.

funkychickendance wrote:I absolutely love the long drum/perc improv "Damp 1" and the Bitmud 'demo tune' on the site...

thanks

- the bitmud demo just used one instance of liveslice and several loops.. no fx btw

ohm · Post by **ohm** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:36 pm

this gizmo has a monster learning curve before one can produce anything that is non-chaotic

I know I'm kind of an expert in LiveSlice, but hope these comments help in some way after all:

I've put a great effort into making the first steps as easy as possible. As R.A.W. points out: loading, slicing and rearranging loops is very simple. Using the parameters and midi mappings are a bit more complicated - but these functions are rarely needed in the very important "jamming" / "idea-generating" phase.
My main design goal has always been to make the creative part of the arranging process fun and simple while still maintaining the options to tweak and tune when the initial groove is in place, and add the proper modulation and midi control options when you are ready to play the song live.

funkychickendance · Post by **funkychickendance** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:45 pm

RAW, Ohm: okay, you convinced me.

I asked only because I've had some fabulous episodes of bafflement lately with 'intuitive' interfaces.

The MIDI automation isn't terribly important to me, because I work in a very modular fashion.

Demo is downloaded already, and I'll give it a whirl. I hope to buy in early-Jan.

/fcd

funkychickendance · Post by **funkychickendance** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:23 pm

R.A.W. wrote:
funkychickendance wrote:...
Before I blow several hours on "try the demo, dummy! ", can someone comment on 'ease of use' aspects?
try the demo

Aaaarrrrgggghhhhh!

It's as simple as you say, dammit!

Okay, raiding the penny jars...

/fcd

R.A.W. · Post by **R.A.W.** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:49 pm

funkychickendance wrote:It's as simple as you say, dammit!

yes, that's why i love that tool.. the basics are so easy to use and you get great results right away.

and you'll be amazed what else you can do as soon as you dig deeper and learn about all the midi-mapping stuff and the new audio-input.. wasn't there a thread somewhere about samplers which actually sample? here you have one.

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:16 pm

this is sounding great, if anybody feels like saying more about liveslice, i definitely feel like listening

LiveSlice is now an effect