KVR Audio

origami · Post by **origami** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:00 am

Hi, I've got this terribly annoying problem.

I use a hardware synth (a Virus) with FL Studio; I hook it up with Midi Out.

BUT

When I press a key on MIDI OUT or simply write a note in the sequencer and press play, it sounds different as when I simply press a key on the synth itself. Same patch, but different sound; sometimes almost inexistant; sometimes slightly; sometimes awfully different.

what may be the matter?

thanks in advance.

Dozius · Post by **Dozius** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:25 am

Sounds to me like your sending MIDI on a different channel from the one your playing on the actual virus. Most synths have a multi-mode where each MIDI channel can play a different sound, this most likely what is happening. Your manual should have some info on this.

origami · Post by **origami** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:29 am

But I have it on channel 1...and actually the patch that sounds IS the same, not another one...but altered.

And I'm using it in single mode...

Dozius · Post by **Dozius** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:34 am

that is wierd. Is the alteration to the sound consistent, like everytime it alters it the same way or is it just random?

origami · Post by **origami** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:35 am

I think it's pretty consistent. It's just that with some sounds it's more noticeable than with others, that's all.

Dozius · Post by **Dozius** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:45 am

could be FL is sending something else along with the note data? Maybe a CC got set somewhere by accident? Could also try FL forums or Access support, maybe someone else has had a similar problem.

origami · Post by **origami** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:51 am

I'm already trying FL forum and Scott thinks it may be related to Velocity. However, I have velocity linked to 'none', so apparently there shouldn't be any problem from what I understand...but there is, that I can assure.

cs9k · Post by **cs9k** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:30 am

When you play the synth, is the midi also going through your PC and out to the synth, causing two triggers of the note?

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:56 am

grab the midi tools demo here :

http://www.squest.com/Windows/SQMidiToo ... Tools.html

take a look at what info is being sent ...

hoffy · Post by **hoffy** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:37 am

wow. I couldn't get my hardware synths to talk to FL Studio at all...

Been ages since i tried tho, i'm using Cubase now

. Good luck!

james0tucson · Post by **james0tucson** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:49 am

origami wrote: what may be the matter?

FL puts all kinds of CC resets in the MIDI-OUT. One possibility is to filter only note messages through MIDI-OX. Also, you might have better results with a Dashboard than a MIDI-OUT generator.

fliffo · Post by **fliffo** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:26 am

cs9k wrote:When you play the synth, is the midi also going through your PC and out to the synth, causing two triggers of the note?

Yeah It seems the same to me...
I don't know how are your midi connections, but try to keep *just* the PC-midi-OUT----->VIRUS-midi-IN
connection and see what goes on.

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:49 am

There is a parameter in the Midi menu called Midi Panel Destination. Set this one to MIDI.
That should do the trick.

origami · Post by **origami** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:25 pm

"try to keep *just* the PC-midi-OUT----->VIRUS-midi-IN "

that's exactly how I have them connected...

And actually I have local off and Midi panel to Int+Midi; I have just tried changing it only to MIDI but with the same results...

ah, and I've tried it in Sonar...and exactly the same results, sound's altered dramatically in some cases.

cs9k · Post by **cs9k** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:58 pm

Any weird midi-yoke type virtual midi cable stuff going on?

help: Midi OUT in FL alters my sounds from Virus synth...