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danielmm · Post by **danielmm** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:01 pm

Do these essentially do the same thing?

dano

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:11 pm

yeah, they both suck.

diverdee · Post by **diverdee** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:23 pm

Don't worry danielmm - someone who's actually got a clue & isn't on the rag will hopefully impart some actual knowledge here soon.

Meloday · Post by **Meloday** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:27 pm

snooky wrote:yeah, they both suck.

seems like you've reached your tipping point man.

maybe take a brake from the computer. hang out with those who love you unconditionally. smoke a little. listen to bob marley. it's not all bad, ya know? stay up boy!

liars&ashes · Post by **liars&ashes** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:29 pm

----On paper they are essentially the same kind of thing, while Magneto has fewer controls. I'm not convinced about "analog warmers", or "exciters" of any kind myself, so I probably shouldn't add any opinion to this post.

Jeff

safeaim · Post by **safeaim** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:30 pm

They can both do tape saturation effects, so they do the same thing, though I would say that the PSP VintageWarmer does sound better, but that's subjetive.. Oh well, it's a forum, who cares

producer2k · Post by **producer2k** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:54 pm

I've always used magneto because of its stability and ease of use. PSP VintageWarmer is perfectly fine. Both do the same thing. Essentially when you use any of the "warming" effects you're just adding compression with a fixed eq. YMMV.

Killvehicle · Post by **Killvehicle** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:11 pm

producer2k wrote:I've always used magneto because of its stability and ease of use. PSP VintageWarmer is perfectly fine. Both do the same thing. Essentially when you use any of the "warming" effects you're just adding compression with a fixed eq. YMMV.

Thats a fairly good sum of things, although people often mistake slamming these things for tape effect whenb in reality both of these sound better in moduration and impart a very warm character, I for ONE am convinced these are quality tools, especially for real TRACKs.. Works great on heavy guitars, bass, drums hell I use them all the time , but of course you can slam the hell out of them if you'd like for a certain sound..
Although the VW is more in terms of uses, It is useable on the mixbuss or in the mastering stage, I have tried slapping Magneto in the mix buss in Cubase and I am not to fond of it.
Finally yes they do DO the same thing albeit they sound different from one another so for me they both get a lot of use but VW is probably a little better for most things.

dirtnap · Post by **dirtnap** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:17 pm

Used to use magneto, but Vintage Warmer kicks its butt. It doesn't seem to get much hype around here, which is just fine with me... I'll continue to use it on EVERYTHING.

martian · Post by **martian** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:20 pm

producer2k wrote:I've always used magneto because of its stability and ease of use. PSP VintageWarmer is perfectly fine. Both do the same thing. Essentially when you use any of the "warming" effects you're just adding compression with a fixed eq. YMMV.

its more than that, the phase is altered and distortion/harmonics added, limiting type compression (assuming you're slamming and not using comp functions). i dont know what you mean by fixed eq? they dont impart a fixed eq curve as far as i know.

if all you want is warmth type thing, then warmifier is the one, imo.

regards,

M'Snah · Post by **M'Snah** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:20 pm

Voxengo Lampthruster deserves a place in this list too

Improv · Post by **Improv** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:23 pm

liars&ashes wrote:----On paper they are essentially the same kind of thing, while Magneto has fewer controls. I'm not convinced about "analog warmers", or "exciters" of any kind myself, so I probably shouldn't add any opinion to this post.

Jeff

Isn't Magneto 'Cubase SX only' ? Or does it come as a seperate vst as well?

Killvehicle · Post by **Killvehicle** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:25 pm

Improv wrote:
liars&ashes wrote:----On paper they are essentially the same kind of thing, while Magneto has fewer controls. I'm not convinced about "analog warmers", or "exciters" of any kind myself, so I probably shouldn't add any opinion to this post.

Jeff
Isn't Magneto 'Cubase only' ? Or does it come as a seperate vst as well?

Cubase ONly and not only that but it is not even useable in Wavelab for example

Killvehicle · Post by **Killvehicle** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:27 pm

martian wrote:
producer2k wrote:I've always used magneto because of its stability and ease of use. PSP VintageWarmer is perfectly fine. Both do the same thing. Essentially when you use any of the "warming" effects you're just adding compression with a fixed eq. YMMV.
its more than that, the phase is altered and distortion/harmonics added, limiting type compression (assuming you're slamming and not using comp functions). i dont know what you mean by fixed eq? they dont impart a fixed eq curve as far as i know.

if all you want is warmth type thing, then warmifier is the one, imo.

regards,

I didnt read the fixed Eq part, I was agreeing with it adding a type of compression and these plugs are defintly adding harmonics to the signal.

Improv · Post by **Improv** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:32 pm

Killvehicle wrote:
Improv wrote:
liars&ashes wrote:----On paper they are essentially the same kind of thing, while Magneto has fewer controls. I'm not convinced about "analog warmers", or "exciters" of any kind myself, so I probably shouldn't add any opinion to this post.

Jeff
Isn't Magneto 'Cubase only' ? Or does it come as a seperate vst as well?
Cubase ONly and not only that but it is not even useable in Wavelab for example

Damn you're fast! You just beat the 2 minute reply!

I'm pretty sure that my SX 2 has magneto, but I've used VW for some tape sat stuff, never tried the Magneto. Of course Magneto wouldn't do much good when I'm using T2, Podium or eXT.

Magneto vs. PSP Vintage Warmer