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rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:53 am

Hey,

I'm a huge fan of the effects plug "Backman"

apparently when they released that 1.3 version I've found its giving me a lot of clicks, even though the update was supposed to take em out. Anyone know if theyll ever fix that?

Thanks

RonC

Spyro · Post by **Spyro** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:37 pm

I'll see what can I do.

I know it clicks sometimes when beeing on backwards stage and there is some low freqs present, but I was too lazy to fix it.

Spyro · Post by **Spyro** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:28 pm

Ok I just changed some stuff inside backman, I tried over a low freq sine wave checking for clicks and I finally managed to kill them.

There is a little little "gap" or "bump" since this plugin is a "flip flop" record / play and over a low freq sine wave entering on the input is really impossible to make the waveform to play in sync when switching the flip flop internally. (bla bla technical stuff) this shouldn't be noticeable on most sound material and the most important thing is that I killed the nasty clicks. (clicks that annoyed me too)

Now, this new Backman version has one little modification, the absolute sync between forward and backward has been changed (tested with clicks, scope and very slooow tempo)and now the little slider on top reflects that so it is probably that you'll need to re adjust that slider on those songs containing backman. (not big deal but you'll probably need to)

Here is a BETA version, check it out and please tell me if it working fine there on your machine (I need the feedback), then I'll see if I work more on it or post an upgrade on my website.

BACKMAN 1.3.1beta

Cheers.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:35 pm

wow thats great!

RonC

Spyro · Post by **Spyro** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:43 pm

It's a shame, 102 visits to this thread and nobody wanted other thing than get the *.dll file without giving any feedback (this was a beta and I stated I needed the testing feedback), so I finally killed the *.dll file.

shame on you guys.

thomekk · Post by **thomekk** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:13 pm

Spyro wrote: I finally killed the *.dll file.

shame on you guys.

Hey man, sorry for that!
As I posted at looptalk earliers I really love your plug. I also heard this crackling but it was no real drama, because it did not appear after rendering

Please don't be too upset, I can really understand your frustration, but I think it's not worth to give too much on anonymous dl-s,
keep up the great work!!
btw. I could check this in FL, but it makes not much sense as you also have FL

I know from experience your an innovative and really nice guy,
so alll u anonoumiouslies, will you please make a

Spyro · Post by **Spyro** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:07 pm

no I don't mean giving praises (thanks anyway) I mean, you guys asked me to fix the click, I did a beta to see if that works for everyone...and all I see is people getting the dll and nothing else.

I'm not upset, and I understand there is so many freeware that you don't have the chance to thanks everyone.

I'm not upset at all

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:16 pm

well... ive enjoyed your other stuff, although ive not tried this one. so I will thank you, for what you do. i DO appreciate all of you guys. and really, i suspect that you guys are respected more than you think....

peace.

thomekk · Post by **thomekk** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:24 pm

Spyro, I don't know if this really concerns you..

Here is a link to piece of mine with "backman" in action taking a seat on a piano (have to wait a few sec. for it appearing..):
http://www.atgig.com/thomekk/rueckdatiert.mp3

BobYordan · Post by **BobYordan** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:51 am

Hi Spyro

Your plugs rock!

Backman is soooo coool.

Great work.

Cheers Bob

Spyro · Post by **Spyro** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:53 am

Hello.

I updated BackMan to 1.3.1

I could FINALLY deal with the clicks, please try it and tell me, I only tried it on Fl studio.

Also updated StereoFaker to 1.5

morelia · Post by **morelia** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:38 am

I'm not a big user of Backman but I tried it in minihost and had no problems/clicks at all.

mckenic · Post by **mckenic** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:16 am

Just DLing and checking now...

TBH for me the first version was

so no need to test further - just feel the evoL

Will report back-kcab...

Dave

Spyro · Post by **Spyro** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:55 pm

Thanks for testing Morelia that's the spirit.

quote:

Will report back-kcab...

hehehe good one

Landphil · Post by **Landphil** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:33 am

Wow, I didn't know about Backman! This thing's cool

No clicks or pops here, other than the expected tiny clicks (host BPM) when it grabs the sample to reverse at a non-zero cross point (I can't see any way around this without applying a short envelope attack that's triggered by the host BPM, but it's not an issue to me).
That was with a stereo track using an MP3 player in Chainer. I heard no artifacts at all while playing piano sounds or other instruments (VSTi). Much fun when you assign the slider to a knob on your controller.

I also noticed that this has the potential to be an interesting alternative for a traditional delay/echo when the slider's slightly off center. Messed with it for a few minutes on a vocal track and liked what I heard.

Thanks for not giving up on this, Spyro. I would have missed it if you had.
This is a spiffy little plug!

Backman -- Could we get an Update?