KVR Audio

wakax · Post by **wakax** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:25 pm

hello.
my tv box starts to resonate when volume is too loud.
the good part is that plastic resonance makes a sweet harmonic distort. is there any way to simulate this in software ? i mean - phisical devices like plastic / glass / metal cages etc used to resonate using some music source ?

i use / know a lot of software but i didnt heard that yet ... maybe someone could code it ( even its hellish hard i imagine ) or to use some already made tools to achieve it ...

thanks - i hope this thread will start smth interesting

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:27 pm

You could record a impulse response of the TV set and load it into SIR.

wakax · Post by **wakax** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:29 pm

yes i can but i dont have a good mic right now

is there any impulse collection of low-fi devices !?

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:30 pm

Have you checked noisevault.com ?

wakax · Post by **wakax** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:32 pm

yes i did ... there are some good lo-fi impulses but not from tv ...

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:41 pm

http://www.xs4all.nl/~fokkie/IR.htm
Found these after some googling. Dunno if there is a TV in there somewhere but there were radios and telephones.

wakax · Post by **wakax** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:51 pm

the problem is that the impulses are not enough - the fx is more complexe and dynamic in a way ...
maybe xoxos has something to say about that.

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:59 pm

Yeah, you'll probably need dynamic convolution,ie IRs with different volume. The market for such a thing is probably quite small.

wakax · Post by **wakax** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:02 pm

i was asking maybe for some physical modeling of places made out of diffrent materials. who knows - i know how hard is to make that but maybe some insane coder will do it someday ...

daGuru · Post by **daGuru** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:06 pm

He hehe... Never more true words were spoken

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:10 pm

You cant convolute distortiion...
But you can add one before the IR.

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:13 pm

That is true but he was talking about some resonaces in his TV set and those you can convolve.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:36 pm

Right, but if it is mixed with the distotrion of the TV/speaker,
the resnance must be convoluted and than a distortion added before the IR.
(and EQ after it maybe)
Another thing, the IR should be done with a loud sine sweep not with a dirac.

Voxengo Deconvolver will help.(demo full funtional)

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:03 pm

Izotope trash has some similarish stuff, different resonances/distortions from the inside of a piano, small speakers, etc. Not free, but the plugin is well worth it, can be used for much more than just guitar...

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:28 pm

Yes, Izotope trash is really good !

how to simu/emulate this distortion ?