Reorganizing plugin folders in fruity studio?

[loopdon]

I have heard the plugin topic in fruity studio 6 has been adressed to make it a little a little more overseeable? I know one can autosort the vst and vsti plugins... Basically what i want to do is:

make folders in my vst dir for effects, i.e.
\compressors
\filters
etc.

that would be sooo helpful!!!

how could i achieve to have them shown in fruity grouped like that without having to save an *.fxp for everyone or so (heard that works, but perhaps a little to time-consuming..)

Please offer any methods you know


Thankyou.

[soulkraka]

http://www.flipside.singingcrane.com/FL ... opic=167.0

read my post in this thread(its the third one down)

hth

[Debutante]

In FL, the neatest and most direct route (the way I prefer to do it) is to simply rename all your plugins as you install them. MOST vst's can be renamed but not DX plugins it seems....

Anyway, for every plugin category, I give a prefix: reverbs are prefixed REV, delayes DEL, filters are FIL etc...so that when I'm looking for say, a chorus, they are all alphabetically listed as "CHR - (name of plugin/ or manufacturer)". So my plugin list looks something like this:


CHR - ag-works CH1
CHR - Bass Chorus
CHR - Blue Cat Stereo
CHR - Classic
CHR - Xoxos CK4V
DEL - Cat Delay
DEL - Classic
DEL - dB ProDelay
DEL - dB ProDelay Lite
DEL - KarmaFX
EQ(G) - Classic
EQ(G) - LPGEQ2
EQ(P) - NWEQ
EQ(P) - PLParEQ3
EQ(P) - Posihfopit
FIL - Betabugs Bugpass
FIL - Betabugs SVF2
FIL - Classic Autofilter
FIL - KarmaFX
FIL - Ohm Force Frohmage
FIL - Ohm Force Ohmygod.
.
.
.
PHsR - Classic
PHsR - EP-Phazer
PHsR - Nomad
PHsR - SupaPhaser
.
.
.
REV - Ambience
REV - Classic
REV - Glaceverb
REV - SIR

It means when I'm looking for a plugin all plugins of the same function fall together. All compressors together, all phasers... this is because FL lists the plugins alphabetically regardless of what folder they are in... and all instruments I prefixed VSTi - (Plugin Name) so they all fall into a large group together as well...conveniently at the bottom of the list

VSTi - Crystal 2.4
VSTi - EVM Bassline 1.3
VSTi - EVM Ultrasonique
VSTi - Evol
VSTi - Farbrausch
VSTi - G-Force G-Wave II
VSTi - H.G. Protoplasm
VSTi - H.G. STS-21 FP
VSTi - Karnage
VSTI - Odo Purple
VSTi - Odo Seeq-One
VSTi - Rhino 2
VSTi - Superwave P8

In the actual plugin folder each developer gets a seperate folder to keep each devs plugins together as well. This is the most visually effective method I have come up with. It means you can have a huge plugin folder and manage it quite well. You can look for a phaser plugin and find it in seconds; instead of having to route through lots of names, just find the prefix and go from there. It is very easy to look at!!!!

[loopdon]

thanks so far

@debutante: that thought had come to my mind, too! with the prefix thing...

i dunno if you know - but there`s no need for prefixing the vsti ones - when scanning for plugins choose `scan and verify` - it will auto-sort the vstis then!!!

again thanks

[Shane Sanders]

The preset method is the only way to go. If you were to change the actual names of your .dll files, you'll end up confusing yourself a year from now when you re-install or update something. IMO, of course.

[pHz]

when i used fl-studio i did the renaming .dll thing ... works fine but i have a LOT of plugins ...

... dont see why they cant program a proper scan that supports subfolders ???

slainte rob

[tk421]

Make folders how you want your stuff organized. Add that folder to FL's browser. Save a .fst file for the plugins you want organized. You can drag and drop them right from the browser then.

You probably know this, but do not make this folder in the FL program folder.

[loopdon]

when i used fl-studio i did the renaming .dll thing ... works fine but i have a LOT of plugins ...

... dont see why they cant program a proper scan that supports subfolders ???

slainte rob

yeah, i wonder as well. gol must have been told already??

[tk421]

I thought it does scan subfolders.

[pHz]

scans them yes ... shows them in a hierarchical nested menu ??? no ...

slainte rob

[Penis Arcade]

scans them yes ... shows them in a hierarchical nested menu ??? no ...

slainte rob

And thank god to that. Because nearly every plugin has it's own concept of how it wants to be installed. Some have subfolders, some dont. Some can be moved, some not. Some have a boatload of crap they dump into folders with them - and you can't delete it because it doesn't work.

Plus your approach of renaming plugns is bad because if someone were to send you a project with a pluging that you have and renamed - it won't be able to load it.

[Debutante]

scans them yes ... shows them in a hierarchical nested menu ??? no ...

slainte rob

And thank god to that. Because nearly every plugin has it's own concept of how it wants to be installed. Some have subfolders, some dont. Some can be moved, some not. Some have a boatload of crap they dump into folders with them - and you can't delete it because it doesn't work.

Plus your approach of renaming plugns is bad because if someone were to send you a project with a pluging that you have and renamed - it won't be able to load it.

I agree that subfolders are tricky. I'm not sure about how other sequencers do it. I have Adobe Audition, and it has nicely categorized trees for its own plugins, but I've never added my own to it because it freezes when scanning a large vst folder. As for outside projects, I have a temp sub-folder for just that!... and never had a problem doing it.

[Penis Arcade]

I am not trying to say that organizing plugins into folders is bad - FL even allows you to do that by storing a default preset for each plugin into your own custom structure.

I am just saying that categorizing it by simply scanning folders - will be more trouble than it's worth.

If there should be some form of categorization - it should definetely be detached from the physical folder structure.

[highkoo]

Make folders how you want your stuff organized. Add that folder to FL's browser. Save a .fst file for the plugins you want organized. You can drag and drop them right from the browser then.

You probably know this, but do not make this folder in the FL program folder.

woooaooaoaaaahh!!!

never thought of that.....

so, youd still have the plugs installed as usual though wouldnt you? but then have just the fst files organized in the browser, however you want?

thats friggin genious man.... does everyone do this? its almost impossible, but this could make the workflow in FL, even *faster*......

thank you!


peace.

[soulkraka]

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