KVR Audio

Elektroid · Post by **Elektroid** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:24 pm

Hi all,

Just installed Adobe Audition 2 , everything looks great BUT I noticed in the VST Plugins folder that most of my WAVES™ plugins are missing. Then I notice the "enable DX plugins" button so I click it and Audition begins scanning, but it keeps locking up and freezing on my DX plugins now...all the following cause it too freeze

1.) PSP 608 multidelay
2.) Waves MAXBASS
3.) Waves Enigma
4.) Waves Xclick
5.) Waves Morphoder
6.) Waves Xcrackle
7.) All my GRM Tools FX
8.) loads more but Im getting bored of typing their names

Ive deleted each one in turn (Ill restore them in a minute) and Ive finally got a Direct X folder in the menu. But even though many of my plugins have now loaded, I tried out waves doppler effect first and as soon as I pressed Preview , Adobe Audition just vanished off my screen, no error message nothing. Well Ive gotta say it, Auditions/Cool Edit Pro's handling of plugins had always been pretty shitty...but this just take's the biscuit.

All the above mentioned plugs work fine in wavelab and Cubase SX so its got to be Auditions fault...Is there anything you guys can reccomend ?

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:57 pm

I have to use cakewalks dx vst wrapper for some...I thought this problem would be fixed with 2.0, but it wasn't...maybe they'll release a patch because it really sux...

Debutante · Post by **Debutante** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:44 am

I don't think they improved VST support. Don't try adding your vst folder if it is especially large. Its the real shitty thing about AA.

Glassback · Post by **Glassback** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:43 am

I used to have that problem with Cool Edit but I managed to solve it...

I don't know if you've tried this, but instead of pointing it to your generic VST folder, point it to your effects folder ONLY.
It's the instruments that screw it up.
At least, that's what I found.

opia · Post by **opia** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:51 am

ELEKTROID wrote:Hi all,

Adobe Audition 2

1.) PSP 608 multidelay
2.) Waves MAXBASS
3.) Waves Enigma
4.) Waves Xclick
5.) Waves Morphoder
6.) Waves Xcrackle
7.) All my GRM Tools FX
8.) loads more but Im getting bored of typing their names

wavelab and Cubase SX

Glassback · Post by **Glassback** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:54 am

What are you suggesting opi?

Barbed Wire Kiss · Post by **Barbed Wire Kiss** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:05 pm

I think v2 has improved a little - Feedbug now has a gui! Glassback makes a good point about the folder you point it at, although I would go one step further and say have a separate AA folder with only the effects that work in it. With v1.5 you also had to have all the dlls in the same folder, they couldn't be put them in sub-folders as AA wouldn't 'see' them. This may have been improved in v2, but I haven't tried it out.

Frankyboy · Post by **Frankyboy** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:15 pm

Stick with Sony Soundforge 8.0. Mich better than Adobe Audition IMHO

Glassback · Post by **Glassback** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:26 pm

Barbed Wire Kiss wrote:I think v2 has improved a little - Feedbug now has a gui! Glassback makes a good point about the folder you point it at, although I would go one step further and say have a separate AA folder with only the effects that work in it. With v1.5 you also had to have all the dlls in the same folder, they couldn't be put them in sub-folders as AA wouldn't 'see' them. This may have been improved in v2, but I haven't tried it out.

I have all mine subfoldered by category - delay, reverb, compression etc etc for easy use in hosts. I can't be bothered splitting it down further into 'works' and 'doesn't work' cos it'll just get messy.

But the point you made about the old version having to have all the .dll's in one folder? It took me a while, but I pointed it to each folder in turn. That's a lot of routes but it worked and didn't mess up my folder system.

Fortunately now that's not necessary - I just point it to the effects folder. I scanned once and it all came up as it should, no problems. Anything unsupported just goes into a seperate menu which AA intuitively calls 'Unsupported'.

Glassback · Post by **Glassback** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:30 pm

Frankyboy wrote:Stick with Sony Soundforge 8.0. Mich better than Adobe Audition IMHO

One of the biggest draws for me with AA is the multi-track feature. Soundforge doesn't have that and in any case, IMHO, AA's better. I can work quickly and easily with it and I like its workflow and features.
It's all subjective though. I prefer AA, you prefer SF.

Barbed Wire Kiss · Post by **Barbed Wire Kiss** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:34 pm

Glassback wrote:
Barbed Wire Kiss wrote:I think v2 has improved a little - Feedbug now has a gui! Glassback makes a good point about the folder you point it at, although I would go one step further and say have a separate AA folder with only the effects that work in it. With v1.5 you also had to have all the dlls in the same folder, they couldn't be put them in sub-folders as AA wouldn't 'see' them. This may have been improved in v2, but I haven't tried it out.
I have all mine subfoldered by category - delay, reverb, compression etc etc for easy use in hosts. I can't be bothered splitting it down further into 'works' and 'doesn't work' cos it'll just get messy.
But the point you made about the old version having to have all the .dll's in one folder? It took me a while, but I pointed it to each folder in turn. That's a lot of routes but it worked and didn't mess up my folder system.
Fortunately now that's not necessary - I just point it to the effects folder. I scanned once and it all came up as it should, no problems. Anything unsupported just goes into a seperate menu which AA intuitively calls 'Unsupported'.

Sounds like they have improved the vst support a little then. Good to know.

Frankyboy wrote:Stick with Sony Soundforge 8.0. Mich better than Adobe Audition IMHO

[irony]Very useful first post. Bravo![/irony]

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:03 pm

Frankyboy wrote:Stick with Sony Soundforge 8.0. Mich better than Adobe Audition IMHO

jusy curious...have you tried AA2...or are just saying you have SF8 and are happy? Because they are two different things...AA is more than just an editor.

Mick, I gotta try your idea one of these days,,,:)

drinelli · Post by **drinelli** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:14 am

yes, I agree upon the improved vst support, before I could not use my uad1 plugins, now they show up fine, but

did they have to include all that flamin weird noises allmost all the time, it is worse than the ones most demoes include, it buzzes and stutters like it was paid to do so, and it is paid for but not to do that.

Version 1.5 behaved fine in comparison.

xander · Post by **xander** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:30 am

I do the same thing that Mick does and haven't had any probs since. However, one thing I tried before I had a sepatate FX folder, which seemed to solve the problem as well, was to simply copy all your FX .dll files into the Audition 2 plugins folder and aim AA2 at that dir only when you refresh. Though it creates redundant files, it solves the problem. Cheers, Alex

G-Ro124 · Post by **G-Ro124** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:49 am

i once downloaded a warez-ed Plugin pack that included the Waves Diamond Bundle & the GRM TOols bundle. I used Adobe Audition on a friend's computer and had the same problem that you did.

NOw, I don't use Waves or GRM, and have no problems.

You probably are innocent, but I had that exact same problem when I used the warez-ed GRM & Waves bundles.

Just slightly suspicious