ST2 does NOT search for new presets at startup. Still, it takes more than 30 seconds to load it. Why?
/Janka
ST2 loading-time is LLLLLLLOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGGG
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- KVRist
- 175 posts since 27 Aug, 2002 from Sweden
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35475 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
More information is needed than that, mate. Like your host, system spec et.c.
And are you sure preset scanning is off. On my system, with 20Gb of ST data (rather than the 6Gb shipped with ST2) it took 25-30 seconds to open with preset scanning on. With scanning off it took less than five seconds. (checked after a full reboot so there was nothing cached in system memory). Thats an AMD X2 3800+, with 2Gb of RAM and the sounds on a SATA drive, for comparison.
Meanhwile, try a defrag of the drive your ST data is on.
And are you sure preset scanning is off. On my system, with 20Gb of ST data (rather than the 6Gb shipped with ST2) it took 25-30 seconds to open with preset scanning on. With scanning off it took less than five seconds. (checked after a full reboot so there was nothing cached in system memory). Thats an AMD X2 3800+, with 2Gb of RAM and the sounds on a SATA drive, for comparison.
Meanhwile, try a defrag of the drive your ST data is on.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 6272 posts since 25 Mar, 2004
Also, make sure your running ST 2.1, not 2. 2.1 has a much faster load time.janka wrote:ST2 does NOT search for new presets at startup. Still, it takes more than 30 seconds to load it. Why?
/Janka
-B
Berfab
So many plugins, so little time...
So many plugins, so little time...
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 175 posts since 27 Aug, 2002 from Sweden
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35475 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
And still no system information...janka wrote:Yes, I run 2.1 and still as bad as ever
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- Tunesmith
- 2889 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Toronto
Yep we don't even know if he's running VST, AU, DirectX or RTAS versions of this.whyterabbyt wrote:And still no system information...janka wrote:Yes, I run 2.1 and still as bad as ever
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 175 posts since 27 Aug, 2002 from Sweden
sorry guys, finally got some time to finish this...
ST VST-version 2.1.1
Pentium Mobile 2 GHz
1 Gb ram
No need to defrag the harddrive at this moment according to disc-manager.
Appr 20 Gb of ST-data
ST VST-version 2.1.1
Pentium Mobile 2 GHz
1 Gb ram
No need to defrag the harddrive at this moment according to disc-manager.
Appr 20 Gb of ST-data
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- KVRAF
- 7872 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA
janka wrote:ST2 does NOT search for new presets at startup. Still, it takes more than 30 seconds to load it. Why?
/Janka
I got it where it doesn't search for new sounds and it still takes a good amount of time to load for me too.
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- KVRist
- 150 posts since 15 Mar, 2005 from Sweden
I have the same problem. It takes about 20-30 seconds to start ST2.1 when the "relist on start" is off. Lot longer if it's enabled. (I have ~26Gb of sounds)
What does it load when it start when the relist is set to off? (there's a lot of disk i/o at startup) It only takes this long the first time, so not a big deal for me, but still it's a little strange. I havent experinced the same problem with SS2 & Philharmonik.
I've got a P4 3.0Ghz northwood, 2Gb RAM, 3 Seagate 149Gb S-ATA disks. Also tried to put the instrument folder on a different drive, but it's the same result.
EF
What does it load when it start when the relist is set to off? (there's a lot of disk i/o at startup) It only takes this long the first time, so not a big deal for me, but still it's a little strange. I havent experinced the same problem with SS2 & Philharmonik.
I've got a P4 3.0Ghz northwood, 2Gb RAM, 3 Seagate 149Gb S-ATA disks. Also tried to put the instrument folder on a different drive, but it's the same result.
EF
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- KVRAF
- 6272 posts since 25 Mar, 2004
I've posted about this before as well and have never gotten a satisfying answer as to why this happens. I loaded the entire Sonik Synth 2 library into ST 2.1.1 and it was extremely slow in loading. When I took out the SS2 library (and kept the ST2.1 original sounds) it works like a charm--so I kept the sounds separate. 10 Gig seems to be the threshold.flynn wrote:I have the same problem. It takes about 20-30 seconds to start ST2.1 when the "relist on start" is off. Lot longer if it's enabled. (I have ~26Gb of sounds)
What does it load when it start when the relist is set to off? (there's a lot of disk i/o at startup) It only takes this long the first time, so not a big deal for me, but still it's a little strange. I havent experinced the same problem with SS2 & Philharmonik.
I've got a P4 3.0Ghz northwood, 2Gb RAM, 3 Seagate 149Gb S-ATA disks. Also tried to put the instrument folder on a different drive, but it's the same result.
EF
I just wish SS2 would update to the ST2.1 engine so that SS2 would load just as fast.
Berfab
So many plugins, so little time...
So many plugins, so little time...
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35475 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Im have the SS2 libraries as well, and dont see this slowdown.BERFAB wrote: I've posted about this before as well and have never gotten a satisfying answer as to why this happens. I loaded the entire Sonik Synth 2 library into ST 2.1.1 and it was extremely slow in loading. When I took out the SS2 library (and kept the ST2.1 original sounds) it works like a charm--so I kept the sounds separate. 10 Gig seems to be the threshold.
I just wish SS2 would update to the ST2.1 engine so that SS2 would load just as fast.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 6272 posts since 25 Mar, 2004
Well, sometime in the next couple of months I'm going to update my rig with a newer, faster PC. I'll be trying this all over again to see what works and what doesn't. Maybe the answer is in there somewhere...whyterabbyt wrote:Im have the SS2 libraries as well, and dont see this slowdown.BERFAB wrote: I've posted about this before as well and have never gotten a satisfying answer as to why this happens. I loaded the entire Sonik Synth 2 library into ST 2.1.1 and it was extremely slow in loading. When I took out the SS2 library (and kept the ST2.1 original sounds) it works like a charm--so I kept the sounds separate. 10 Gig seems to be the threshold.
I just wish SS2 would update to the ST2.1 engine so that SS2 would load just as fast.
Cheers
-B
Berfab
So many plugins, so little time...
So many plugins, so little time...
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- KVRAF
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
Even if it doesn't completely rescan your ST2 Instruments folder, it still has to load the instrument database (so it can list the instruments). If you've thousands of sounds (and 26 gigs IS a lot of sound!), then I can imagine this taking a while. My ST2 takes a little while to start up (especially when loading a project with a few hundred megs of samples!), but fortunately it only does this when loading for the first time. Afterwards, working with it is quick as ever.
-Kim.
-Kim.