BR [fixed] - LiveSlice causes EXT to quit unexpectedly
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- KVRist
- 205 posts since 27 Apr, 2005 from ATL
This is happening on LiveSlice v1.42. Here are the steps to reproduce:
1) Open EXT standalone.
2) In the main area, right-click and select LiveSlice.
3) Double-click the LiveSlice icon to open.
4) Close the LiveSlice window.
5) Right-click on the LiveSlice icon and select delete.
6) In the main area, right-click and select another VST. (I tried Vanguard and Reaktor5)
7) EXT displays several 'Buffer Overrun Error' messages, then disappears.
1) Open EXT standalone.
2) In the main area, right-click and select LiveSlice.
3) Double-click the LiveSlice icon to open.
4) Close the LiveSlice window.
5) Right-click on the LiveSlice icon and select delete.
6) In the main area, right-click and select another VST. (I tried Vanguard and Reaktor5)
7) EXT displays several 'Buffer Overrun Error' messages, then disappears.
Last edited by stuman on Thu May 25, 2006 2:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRian
- 783 posts since 6 Jan, 2006 from Premià
I cannot reproduce this... what version of eXT are you using? Does it only happen with LiveSlice? Any other info that might help identify the problem?
The mind boggles.
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- KVRAF
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 205 posts since 27 Apr, 2005 from ATL
Hey guys,
I'm using the latest versions of everything. This only happens after deleting LiveSlice from the main area in Ext. So far I only tried Reaktor5 and Vanguard. I'll try some other VSTs and then report the results. Which VSTs did you guys try that isn't reproducing the problem? Hope I'm not the only one seeing this problem.
System Specs:
Intel CPU P4 3GHz
2 Gigs RAM
ASUS Mobo
M-Audio AP2496
Edirol PCR30
I'm using the latest versions of everything. This only happens after deleting LiveSlice from the main area in Ext. So far I only tried Reaktor5 and Vanguard. I'll try some other VSTs and then report the results. Which VSTs did you guys try that isn't reproducing the problem? Hope I'm not the only one seeing this problem.
System Specs:
Intel CPU P4 3GHz
2 Gigs RAM
ASUS Mobo
M-Audio AP2496
Edirol PCR30
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- KVRian
- 783 posts since 6 Jan, 2006 from Premià
Stuman, I tried Wusikstation, a few freebies and energyxt itself as I don't own reaktor or vanguard... try to reproduce it with a free VST or with eXT-vst so we can try to emulate your setup.
The mind boggles.
- KVRAF
- 1950 posts since 17 Jun, 2005
I can reproduce this in eXT 1.3.6 with LiveSlice 1.42 and the free Superwave P8 v1.6. Although, as I posted in another thread, I still can't quite put my finger on it: the behavior seems to be slightly different every time, and I think it's not that dependent on the other plugin used.
Anyway, just a moment ago I tried it with the steps listed in the first post, using Superwave as the secondary plugin, and nothing happened. Then I inserted another LiveSlice instance, clicked around in the main eXT GUI, dragging modules slightly and right-clicking their context menus visible and so on. Poof, the whole eXT window vanished.
While writing this, I continued to try the combo on two quite different machines (Intel Pentium M based laptop / AMD Athlon based desktop), this time with eXT as a VSTi hosted inside Ableton Live. After repeating the same steps I actually got the otherwise very stable laptop to throw a sudden blue screen and -- get this -- the incident wrecked the Ableton Live unlock data. Live started up in demo mode and wanted to be reactivated. I did have fresh system partition Ghost images handy, however, so status quo is already restored
The desktop computer didn't show a blue screen but went completely blank, then rebooted from the BIOS POST screen onwards.
Anyway, just a moment ago I tried it with the steps listed in the first post, using Superwave as the secondary plugin, and nothing happened. Then I inserted another LiveSlice instance, clicked around in the main eXT GUI, dragging modules slightly and right-clicking their context menus visible and so on. Poof, the whole eXT window vanished.
While writing this, I continued to try the combo on two quite different machines (Intel Pentium M based laptop / AMD Athlon based desktop), this time with eXT as a VSTi hosted inside Ableton Live. After repeating the same steps I actually got the otherwise very stable laptop to throw a sudden blue screen and -- get this -- the incident wrecked the Ableton Live unlock data. Live started up in demo mode and wanted to be reactivated. I did have fresh system partition Ghost images handy, however, so status quo is already restored
The desktop computer didn't show a blue screen but went completely blank, then rebooted from the BIOS POST screen onwards.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 205 posts since 27 Apr, 2005 from ATL
Hmmmm. After further testing, looks like I'm experiencing much of the same behaviour that Guenon is noticing. I've tried various NI plugins, Imposcar, String Theory, Vanguard, and Oatmeal.
So far, the only time I see the 'buffer overrun' msgs is when I open Vanguard (after deleting LS). Overall, I'm getting haphazard results. Sometimes, just simply right-clicking in Ext's main area causes Ext to disappear. Also, after a number of times that this happens, I notice that I can no longer select my midi controller for input. I actually need to reboot my system in order to select it again.
FWIW, this behaviour doesn't occur with LS v1.40. I appreciate all the replies. Hopefully I can figure this out. As of now, I'm at a loss.
So far, the only time I see the 'buffer overrun' msgs is when I open Vanguard (after deleting LS). Overall, I'm getting haphazard results. Sometimes, just simply right-clicking in Ext's main area causes Ext to disappear. Also, after a number of times that this happens, I notice that I can no longer select my midi controller for input. I actually need to reboot my system in order to select it again.
FWIW, this behaviour doesn't occur with LS v1.40. I appreciate all the replies. Hopefully I can figure this out. As of now, I'm at a loss.
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- KVRian
- 783 posts since 6 Jan, 2006 from Premià
I still cannot reproduce any of this behaviour sorry, I tried all the suggestted nuances several times with Superwave P8, the Vanguard demo and other plugs. Note that I'm doing the test on my ancient PentiumIII home machine on purpose. I'll try to have a go at my main daw during the weekend if time allows, but hopefully somebody else will take a look as well?
That said, I wonder if you should report this in the energyXT forum as well once you have a consistent way of reproducing it... from past betatesting experience, energyXT can be quite picky sometimes where other hosts might not even blink...
That said, I wonder if you should report this in the energyXT forum as well once you have a consistent way of reproducing it... from past betatesting experience, energyXT can be quite picky sometimes where other hosts might not even blink...
The mind boggles.
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- KVRAF
- 1511 posts since 2 Jul, 2004
There definately were some problems with closing and deleting LiveSlices - I was able to partly reproduce and hopefully fix the problems described in this thread.
Are all those of you having problems with 1.42 on the beta list? If not can you please contact me via email - I have done a few bugfixes that I'd like to have verified - sending out a beta as soon as I hear word from GilJ, Stuman and Guenon.
Are all those of you having problems with 1.42 on the beta list? If not can you please contact me via email - I have done a few bugfixes that I'd like to have verified - sending out a beta as soon as I hear word from GilJ, Stuman and Guenon.
http://www.livelab.dk - slice up your life
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- KVRist
- 282 posts since 16 Mar, 2005
Waiting for the 1.42 beta to verify the new bugfixes
P.S. Ohm, have you been able to reproduce/fix my last B.R. in my last post here: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... &start=165 in the 1.42 beta?
Cheers
GilJ.
P.S. Ohm, have you been able to reproduce/fix my last B.R. in my last post here: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... &start=165 in the 1.42 beta?
Cheers
GilJ.
- KVRAF
- 1950 posts since 17 Jun, 2005
As GilJ noted that v1.42 has also made Ableton Live crash when hosted alone (not specifically inside eXT VSTi), I decided to revert back to v1.40 for now. Other than testing purposes, of course 
Ohm, I sent you a PM so that you can add my contact info on the beta list.
Ohm, I sent you a PM so that you can add my contact info on the beta list.
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- KVRist
- 30 posts since 13 Feb, 2006
I have the same issues, glad to see i am not the only oneGilJ wrote:I have had Live 5.2 quit a couple of times while playing with LiveSlice 1.42.
I have not been able to find how to reproduce it however
Ohm, I'd also like to be a beta tester. The sooner this pluggin is stable again, the better.
1-0ne
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- KVRAF
- 1511 posts since 2 Jul, 2004
beta testers: check your inbox - I am very confident the latest beta will take care of all the issues mentioned 
http://www.livelab.dk - slice up your life
