KVR Audio

shanecgriffo · Post by **shanecgriffo** » Tue May 30, 2006 3:56 pm

i notice cps is free now , just wondering if this is a hard prog to get your head around, havent done much of this sort of stuff before. has anyone any experience. can you create your own instruments/fx without too much prior knowledge . also can you create your own gui's?

Motion · Post by **Motion** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:09 pm

Hi...No experience of it...but one thing I would like to say is a big thanks to the author of CPS for giving it to the planet for free and is most generous,I'm sure a lot of people will find much interesting and creative use from it....fiddling around with it as a vst plug in at the moment....seems it can do a ton of stuff and is event driven like Max/Msp,Pd and the likes,so is for me anyway totally worth investing my time in without going insane.

Thanks CPS

atomic_(no)afro · Post by **atomic_(no)afro** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:30 pm

Yea, thanks CPS. Can't wait to make some mad-crazy DJ tools with this bad bwoy.

ATA

jobromedia · Post by **jobromedia** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:56 pm

CPS, where can one pick this bastard up then? I googled for it and got a sh*tload of results.

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Tue May 30, 2006 5:04 pm

http://cps.bonneville.nl/

stereomax · Post by **stereomax** » Tue May 30, 2006 5:07 pm

jobromedia wrote:CPS, where can one pick this bastard up then? I googled for it and got a sh*tload of results.

Well, the news item on the news page gives

http://cps.bonneville.nl/

- and it works!

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue May 30, 2006 5:10 pm

Bit confusing about Java. It has a download link to a version of Java which says it doesn't use Sun java but then says an update will use Sun Java - I thought all Java was by Sun and also I hate the idea of having several Java variants on my PC - is there one definative one?

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue May 30, 2006 5:11 pm

btw - I thought Java was supposed to be a bad environment for creating audio apps because its not as directly connected to the hardware as C+ or Machinecode which makes it slower - or something like that.

SoftJunkie · Post by **SoftJunkie** » Tue May 30, 2006 5:14 pm

from what i gather from the website, the java is for gui only. vst engines can be written in c/c++

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue May 30, 2006 5:35 pm

SoftJunkie wrote:from what i gather from the website, the java is for gui only. vst engines can be written in c/c++

Indeed; Java is only used for UI components within CPS itself. The actual audio engine (which is based on the SAOL audio language, part of the MPEG-4 spec) is C++, as far as I understand.

For reference, you can create VST plugins with this, but the way it works is that you provide your CPS patch, and a renamed version of the CPS 'runtime engine'. Outsied the CPS environment proper, though, you dont get the UI, and if I remember rightly, there's a limitation of 8 VST parameters. In fact the whole CPS program can run as a VST, so thats effectively what happens; you use a cut-down version alongside your patch The engine can also be embedded in standalone software, as well as used within Director. There's even a browser plugin which plays CPS patches, but all of these still kind of work on an 'engine+patch' basis.

In 'style', it is pretty similar to MAX and PD, so now that its free its worthwhile as an adjunct/alternative to those.

As for SoftJunkie's questions ; yes it would probably be useful for prototyping. But not for a final implementation, IMO. I have no idea if they'd run on the Receptor.

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Tue May 30, 2006 5:48 pm

It will let you export to code, won't it? So you could feasibly export and revise for use in a C/C++ made plugin.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:07 pm

shamann wrote:It will let you export to code, won't it? So you could feasibly export and revise for use in a C/C++ made plugin.

It exports in a form which still intrinsically relies on definiing a patch and loading the audio engine. The difference is that the 'patch' is created by object-creation calls, then object-connection calls, rather than loaded from an external file... then a straightforward initiation of the engine. Once the engine is running, Im not actually sure if there's any way to interact with the structure of the patch.

That said that its been quite a while since I looked at this...

RPH · Post by **RPH** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:08 pm

i had sun VM installed, and installed the microsoft VM.
no problems with both installed.

program looks nice, very cool free toy to play with

G-Ro124 · Post by **G-Ro124** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:45 am

I STILL CAN'T GET THIS DAMN THING TO GO!!!

I just installed it, ran it, and nothing happened. Java is running right now. What else do I need to go?? I can't figure it out?!

stk · Post by **stk** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:07 pm

I have sun java runtime running here on an old celeron / win2k, CPS runs perfectly.
I dunno if it really needs java runtime to run, but it was installed anyway, for my work stuff.

CPS is running flawlessly with Director MX 2004, which is rocking my world in myriad ways

sk

any cps experience?