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TVD · Post by **TVD** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:07 am

I'm thinking in theory that that war against illegal warez might be a smoother one if the software company would give any free dongles to their loyal customers. That way, their customers would have no more excuses needed to use crack copies of their favorite software (not even for backup purposes). Am I right or wrong? Why or why not?

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:09 am

my ilok came free with avox

TVD · Post by **TVD** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:13 am

Hink wrote:my ilok came free with avox

What is an avox?

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:17 am

TVD wrote:
Hink wrote:my ilok came free with avox
What is an avox?

make-up for cows

http://www.antarestech.com/products/avox.shtml

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:19 am

My Cubase SX came with its dongle. So did IK's Classik Studio Reverb. And compatible products are allowed to just double up on the same dongle, so you usually won't have to buy another one.

IMHO, the dongle complaints are of two types:
1) dongles on laptops can be problematic, especially when there's a lot of live use. They can easily break or get lost, and replacement can be difficult or even require re-purchasing of the software license again.

2) Warez users are looking for ANY excuse to keep using warez, and dongles are their excuse of the moment.

-B

TotcProductions · Post by **TotcProductions** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:19 am

Hink wrote:
TVD wrote:
Hink wrote:my ilok came free with avox
What is an avox?
make-up for cows

TVD · Post by **TVD** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:51 am

Hink wrote:
TVD wrote:
Hink wrote:my ilok came free with avox
What is an avox?
make-up for cows

http://www.antarestech.com/products/avox.shtml

Great. More boy/girl bands with be created because of this.

_oswald · Post by **_oswald** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:24 am

TVD wrote: Great. More boy/girl bands with be created because of this.

I don't see what AVOX has to do with pre-op transvestite vocalists.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:54 am

_oswald wrote:
TVD wrote: Great. More boy/girl bands with be created because of this.
I don't see what AVOX has to do with pre-op transvestite vocalists.

did you read what throat does?

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:10 am

BERFAB wrote:
2) Warez users are looking for ANY excuse to keep using warez, and dongles are their excuse of the moment.

-B

Not true in my case, I just think that I shouldnt have any hoops to jump through when I buy a license to an app. especially if its one more point of failure in a DAW. I am just drawing a line in the sand, being stubborn, and never supporting a dongle dev ever again, even if I have to keep my current setup for the rest of my life... with all the apps I bought that arent copy protected, I would like to think that I am voting with my wallet, but once a dev buys into dongle protection they will never remove it**

Honestly though, dongles are good, as I dont own/use any dongle protected software, and it saves me the expense of purchasing them

** Noteable exception is Izotope when ozone 3 came out with Pace. I complained to the devs, there was alot of upset users, they removed it, and I bought ozone, trash and spectron because of it.

TVD · Post by **TVD** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:03 am

_oswald wrote:
TVD wrote: Great. More boy/girl bands with be created because of this.
I don't see what AVOX has to do with pre-op transvestite vocalists.

6 6 6 · Post by **6 6 6** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:10 am

....(Quote = Warez users are looking for ANY excuse to keep using warez, and dongles are their excuse of the moment.)

BULLSHIT.

this dongle and iLok crap is just that. PERIOD.

most of the time, hell even the warez have bug fixes taken care of by the hack who
packed it!!

Dongles suk , and thats that!!

mikebeck · Post by **mikebeck** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:45 am

Stupid American Pig wrote: but once a dev buys into dongle protection they will never remove it**

Another exception is BIAS. Many users were upset with the new dongle requirement for Peak Pro 5, and the latest release (5.2) now offers the option of dongle versus authorization. A step in the right direction (responding to customer feedback). I still prefer serial numbers, though.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:11 am

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VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:33 am

I suspect its not going to stop most pirates from pirating software though.. I think... even if there was some grand scheme to allot thousands of dollars to ppl, they'd still opt to pirate software...

In the many years I've been coming to this forum I've come to the conclusion that many pirates either download 'warez' because:

(A) They want to sound like XXXXXXXX (enter in popular artist) but dont have the technical skill yet, so they download 'bigger and better' things looking to acheive that sound the easy/lazy way.. it becomes a never ending cycle for them...
OR/AND
(B) They simply do it as a hoarding issue.. just downloading crap because its there, its new, and they can. maybe its boredom???

no amount of dongles in the world is going to stop that..

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