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b-pole · Post by **b-pole** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:03 pm

Sorry for asking.
My first post.

I want to buy a new mastering native bundle.

Too much products on the market.

What can I do?

Thanx in advance
b-pole

RTaylor · Post by **RTaylor** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:15 pm

What do you want to spend?

wsaidah · Post by **wsaidah** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:21 pm

Lets see you will need a limter and a eq! i would go with ozone and elephant in that order as for eq go with something transparent. i also use g-clip with elephant its a good clipper

M'Snah · Post by **M'Snah** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:30 pm

If you don't know yet what you need, don't buy a bundle now.

Probably you need mixing tools instead of mastering... There are lots of threads about 'the best' free/commercial EQ/Compressor/Limiter.

Most people use a mix ('best of breed') of products of a.o. Kjaerhus, Voxengo, Sonalksis, PSP, Izotope and some others...

b-pole · Post by **b-pole** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:29 pm

What about the Nomad Blue Tubes Bundle or Waves Native Power Bundle?

need a compressor, eq, filter, flanger etc...

M'Snah · Post by **M'Snah** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:37 pm

Waves is good too. Nobody uses Nomad (except me).

What do you want to spend? And you *do* understand the difference between mixing and mastering and track fx?

EDIT: dumb question, if you already mentioned filter/flanger

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Try Kjaerhus Classic first. That should be more than enough for now.

Klemperer · Post by **Klemperer** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:43 pm

M'Snah has already mentioned very well known names. I'd simply add (well it is more than a bundle, it is about 50 effects and more in one plus for the future a workbench to build own effects from existing modules and effects): QuantumFX2. It contains EQs, compressors, limiters, quite nicely made sidechaining-effects and much, much much more. I don't know how much you'd want to spend, though, and of course you'd better test the demo, you could find it HERE.

There are directX-mastering-plugins on the page which are cheaper (in fact the first I owned, and they are GREAT and led me to QuantumFX later; but you can only use them if you have a host like Sonar or N-track which can use directX- they are not "vst-effects". I just mention them because you don't said which host you run.

Well, QuantumFX2 would be an "all for one" solution, so I mentioned it.

And there are many good freebies around, as you might already know or can easily learn here in various threads. www.voxengo has some, Poshipfoit-EQ(I always forget how this Budde-masterwork is exactly called

), tbt - limiters, the excellent Classic-series from www.kjaerhus.com includes compressor, EQ, limiter, flanger... and so on. Those all are worth a look, I'd say.

edit: I know some opinions that WAVES are great plugins, with a company who provides extremely bad support, copy-protection-method is a pain for customers, whereas crack-users still seem to use Waves a lot, and so on. But well, that's not written in stone, obviously. The demos I had once (must have been 4 years ago

were much fun, I think 14 days for free or so).

sounddesigner · Post by **sounddesigner** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:22 pm

The voxengo harmonieq and marquis compressor are the best mastering bundle in my eye's, i'd also consider the soniformer and elephant bundle. both of these bundles are cheap and extremely powerful (too much power for one man to have if you ask me,- for it may corrupt you!).I'd seriously consider kjaerhus mpl-1 limiter as well.

Firebird · Post by **Firebird** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:31 pm

Maybe you don't need a BUNDLE but just different tools from different manufacturers.
You might find one company makes a great EQ while another makes a great compressor.
Some great stuff is:

Universal Audio
Sony Oxford
Waves

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:44 pm

Make sure you check out the PSP Audioware stuff: Neon, PSP Mastercomp and PSP MasterQ. Phenomonal products.

Kjaerhus MPL-1 and the Golden Equaliser|GEQ-7 are excellent mastering tools also, very clean.

Waves is excellent if you can swing it and you don't mind the C/P. Waves LinMB and L2/L3 are still the best, IMHO.

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:47 pm

sounddesigner wrote:The voxengo harmonieq and marquis compressor are the best mastering bundle in my eye's, i'd also consider the soniformer and elephant bundle. both of these bundles are cheap and extremely powerful (too much power for one man to have if you ask me,- for it may corrupt you!).I'd seriously consider kjaerhus mpl-1 limiter as well.

Excellent suggestions throughout. Saved me from writing the same thing.

There's more but with any of these you absolutely can't go wrong, top class plugins the lot of them.

b-pole · Post by **b-pole** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:32 am

At the moment there is a summer special in July of Waves...
20% Off for the native power bundle...
means in EUR:
369 EUR for this complete bundle...
should I get it?

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:58 am

That's a solid, all-around useful bundle. I'd say yes, but before you do, maybe try out some of the high quality plugins that the guys have suggested here. You could save some money and not need to take up another USB port! Some notes about the Waves stuff:

True Verb is pretty lame, you probably won't use it much.

Q10 Paragraphic Equalizer is excellent, a very clean EQ.

DeEsser is good, but not great.

L1 Ultramaximizer is a great limiter, for sure.

S1 Stereo Imager is still one of the best imagers, easy to use, cool interface.

Super Tap (2 Tap) is a crappy, hard to use delay. I never touch it.

C1 is a good compressor, a little outdated.

IR-L Convolution Reverb Light, obviously useful, but not unique.

Doubler is so good, it's worth $300 alone.

So, I'd say it's still worth it. But check out the others first. I don't think you'll get support for these products unless you pay for it.

M'Snah · Post by **M'Snah** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:47 am

b-pole wrote:At the moment there is a summer special in July of Waves...
20% Off for the native power bundle...
means in EUR:
369 EUR for this complete bundle...
should I get it?

I really don't understand. Apparently you have lots of money, but not a clue of what you need / what you should buy?

b-pole · Post by **b-pole** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:33 am

got a used Waves Native Powerpak v3 for EUR 110,00.
Registrated for me now.
Payed EUR 44,00 for iLook and EUR 40,00 for 1 year WUP.
So I paid EUR 194,00 for all.

New would be EUR 349 plus EUR 44,00 for iLook (the 20 % OFF offer in July).

So I saved EUR 199,00 for all.

(Problem solved)What mastering bundle I should buy?