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Is there a plugin that most would agree can out do either of these.I like the finalizer 96k but since then, I'm sure software offers something better for the right price.
Any suggestions?

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It might be nice if there were one plugin "box" that was perfect - maybe not. I glue together a few different ones, tonight's menu:

PSP MasterQ (beats Ozone3 EQ for this project) ->
PSP Mixtreble (add transients back in) ->
Ozone3 Maximizer (smooth with a capital "S") ->
Voxengo Soniformer (bass management & stereo width) ->
Voxengo Elephant (mastering limiter) ->
[Elemental IXL Metering]
[Voxengo SPAN RTA]

I'm remastering (repairing) a cassette to CD for a local artist and there's barely any oxide left on it... :D

What are you doing?

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dblock wrote:Is there a plugin that most would agree can out do either of these.I like the finalizer 96k but since then, I'm sure software offers something better for the right price.
Any suggestions?
If you need something better then Ozone then you need voxengo's Soniformer and or Marquis compressor. Voxengo's Harmonieq is a great eq, voxengo's elephant limiter and or kjaerhus mpl-1.There are also several great reverbs that out do Ozones reverb like wizooverb 2.To match Ozones harmonic exciter i'd look at Transmodder by voxengo.

www.voxengo.com

wizoo's demo is here- http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/W ... -main.html

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Actually, I have a Sonalksis DQ1 and CQ1 I just bought which I think kills along with a multidynamics 5 but decided it worked best on the kick for me.
Maybe I'm just being greedy but I figure the better the sound I can get with the plugins the better off I'll be when I send it all through the finalizer,alan smart c2 compressor, manley slam and avalon 2055 and l2 hardware maximixer.
Maybe overkill maybe not.I'm just experimenting and I don't have the formal knowledge let to hook this stuff up for real pro mastering yet. I want my stuff to sound like a record.

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If you need something better then Ozone then you need voxengo's Soniformer and or Marquis compressor. Voxengo's Harmonieq is a great eq, voxengo's elephant limiter and or kjaerhus mpl-1.There are also several great reverbs that out do Ozones reverb like wizooverb 2.To match Ozones harmonic exciter i'd look at Transmodder by voxengo.

I tried the voxengo's Soniformer demo but thought the Sonalksis had more of what I was looking for though voxengo makes good products. Haven't tried the Kjaerhus mpl-1 or marquis compressor yet.

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Cool setup. i'm going to take a look at the psp Master Q. I demoed their compressor a long time ago and liked what they do.
kylen wrote:It might be nice if there were one plugin "box" that was perfect - maybe not. I glue together a few different ones, tonight's menu:

PSP MasterQ (beats Ozone3 EQ for this project) ->
PSP Mixtreble (add transients back in) ->
Ozone3 Maximizer (smooth with a capital "S") ->
Voxengo Soniformer (bass management & stereo width) ->
Voxengo Elephant (mastering limiter) ->
[Elemental IXL Metering]
[Voxengo SPAN RTA]

I'm remastering (repairing) a cassette to CD for a local artist and there's barely any oxide left on it... :D

What are you doing?

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Check out tc's MD3 Mastering
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sounddesigner wrote:........harmonic exciter i'd look at Transmodder by voxengo.

Off topic,
I've just used Transmodder for the first time (bought it long time ago) and the thing is just amazing. I've used it on a bass sound and it came alive with such zing and funk, I couldn't pick my jaw of the floor. I might post an mp3 later.
:D

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dblock wrote:... Maybe I'm just being greedy but I figure the better the sound I can get with the plugins the better off I'll be when I send it all through the finalizer,alan smart c2 compressor, manley slam and avalon 2055 and l2 hardware maximixer...
dont look for plugins, you got the tools needed for the final product... just get used to them and try them in different orders/chains

but if you can not get it right with these superb outboards then you should go back to the mix and fix it there
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dblock wrote:Maybe I'm just being greedy but I figure the better the sound I can get with the plugins the better off I'll be when I send it all through the finalizer,alan smart c2 compressor, manley slam and avalon 2055 and l2 hardware maximixer.
Maybe overkill maybe not.I'm just experimenting and I don't have the formal knowledge let to hook this stuff up for real pro mastering yet. I want my stuff to sound like a record.
Call me crazy buuuuut...you have some fairly significant hardware for someone "just experimenting" with "no formal knowledge".

I must say, I am relatively perplexed as too how you would be advantaged with all the plugins you could wish for, when you are apparently not up to patching together the hardware you mention above.
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dblock wrote:I want my stuff to sound like a record.
Can be done... ;-)
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himalaya wrote:
sounddesigner wrote:........harmonic exciter i'd look at Transmodder by voxengo.

Off topic,
I've just used Transmodder for the first time (bought it long time ago) and the thing is just amazing. I've used it on a bass sound and it came alive with such zing and funk, I couldn't pick my jaw of the floor. I might post an mp3 later.
:D
It's a very nice tool. It's not a exciter but it can really bring things out like you want it. A little tricky to use (i'm a slow learner anyways) but nice. If you have the time i'd like to check out the mp3 later.

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I find Electri-Q an amazing EQ, even for mastering

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sounddesigner wrote:
dblock wrote:Is there a plugin that most would agree can out do either of these.I like the finalizer 96k but since then, I'm sure software offers something better for the right price.
Any suggestions?
If you need something better then Ozone then you need voxengo's Soniformer and or Marquis compressor. Voxengo's Harmonieq is a great eq, voxengo's elephant limiter and or kjaerhus mpl-1.There are also several great reverbs that out do Ozones reverb like wizooverb 2.To match Ozones harmonic exciter i'd look at Transmodder by voxengo.

www.voxengo.com

wizoo's demo is here- http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/W ... -main.html

ok please expalin why on earth you would want a reverb for mastering?
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ATS wrote:
sounddesigner wrote:
dblock wrote:Is there a plugin that most would agree can out do either of these.I like the finalizer 96k but since then, I'm sure software offers something better for the right price.
Any suggestions?
If you need something better then Ozone then you need voxengo's Soniformer and or Marquis compressor. Voxengo's Harmonieq is a great eq, voxengo's elephant limiter and or kjaerhus mpl-1.There are also several great reverbs that out do Ozones reverb like wizooverb 2.To match Ozones harmonic exciter i'd look at Transmodder by voxengo.

www.voxengo.com

wizoo's demo is here- http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/W ... -main.html

ok please expalin why on earth you would want a reverb for mastering?
Of course there can be a time to use reverb in master. I wouldnt always, but just recently a friend gave me his band to master, They are a doom band and basically everything was recorded in the same room at the same time.. And it was raw, but fairly good still, but it had no ROOM to it at all, and considering this was recorded as sort of a live setting, soom reverb added quite a bit of feel and livliness. Not a shitload obviously, just a touch and I personally think it was the difference between a decent master and what turned out to be a real good sounding master... Sure it could have been mic'ed better or had and ambience mic for the whole band and been recorded in a proper studio, then I wouldnt need to add reverbs, but life isnt perfect..
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