I'm looking for a chorus with BIG number of operators. I know, there is a perfect Voxengo AnalogFlux chorus with 8 operators (4 for left channel and 4 for right), but if another chorus with YET MORE operators is existing?
PS. I'm crazy, i know. And i can combine several choruses in parallel, i know. And my english is ugly, i know too. ;]]]
Wanted: chorus with MULTIPLE operators
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- KVRist
- 431 posts since 27 Sep, 2005
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 431 posts since 27 Sep, 2005
BIG thanx to shamann and to Fuzzpilz!
This incredible plugin is the best chorus/ensemble fx i ever seen! I found it ideal for my purposes: pads and bassdrums synthesis.
But this plugin is quite buggy in my LAP and crashed it several times already...
This incredible plugin is the best chorus/ensemble fx i ever seen! I found it ideal for my purposes: pads and bassdrums synthesis.
But this plugin is quite buggy in my LAP and crashed it several times already...
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- KVRAF
- 3369 posts since 16 Jan, 2005 from Ottawa, Ontario
...you should also check out the units from ag-works:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1915.html
I find them a little buggy as well but they sound quite special.
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1915.html
I find them a little buggy as well but they sound quite special.
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- KVRAF
- 3191 posts since 20 Sep, 2004 from Atlanta
HERE is another one to add to the short list of mega choruses 
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 431 posts since 27 Sep, 2005
Thanx. Some plugins i have trying earlier, but some are new for me.
Now i tested all of them.
There are two main tasks for "mega choruses"
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1. Chicane-like ensemble pads
2. Very special task - creating (in collaborating with convolution with special fir-core) bass drum samples (by processing my own special bass drum vsti). Earlier i have using convolution only, but now i find that mega-chorus may help me.
As for task 2, becouse it is very special, i'll not consider it in detail.
Now as for pads.
Clone ensemble is very good. It sounds thick, lush and nice, but sound is quite weak and a little outlying.
I didn't find ag-works ch-1 usual for this. It is good, but i can't to achieve necessary sound with it. It is seem to very isotropic (and becouse of it it is useless for task 2 too) and pads sounds tedious.
As for E-Fex Extreme Chorus, it is some few uneasy to control and tune it becouse i need to tune each operator individually, but is the key to achieve neeful anisotropy in sound (and it's quite good for "task 2":)). I found its sound forceful and nice, but something synthetic and cybernetic. It is very good for some trance pads!
And there is a hero. Charsiesis. It's just the best imho. Very comfortable interface with wide range of tuning and. It allows to choose lfo's form, and it is very good for ensemble pads. I mean that pulse form is better than sine or triangle for such pads. But it's "stepping random" form really hits the spot and even better than raw pulse.
Pads sounds very bland, lush, rustle and forceful.
Some bonus notes. I find that ensemble fx in XPhraze sounds excellent, but this fx is built-in to my regret and thus unusual. And series combination of LAP chorus and MDE-X Ensemble sounds good and interesting too.
P.S. All this reasonings are IMHO.
Now i tested all of them.
There are two main tasks for "mega choruses"
.1. Chicane-like ensemble pads
2. Very special task - creating (in collaborating with convolution with special fir-core) bass drum samples (by processing my own special bass drum vsti). Earlier i have using convolution only, but now i find that mega-chorus may help me.
As for task 2, becouse it is very special, i'll not consider it in detail.
Now as for pads.
Clone ensemble is very good. It sounds thick, lush and nice, but sound is quite weak and a little outlying.
I didn't find ag-works ch-1 usual for this. It is good, but i can't to achieve necessary sound with it. It is seem to very isotropic (and becouse of it it is useless for task 2 too) and pads sounds tedious.
As for E-Fex Extreme Chorus, it is some few uneasy to control and tune it becouse i need to tune each operator individually, but is the key to achieve neeful anisotropy in sound (and it's quite good for "task 2":)). I found its sound forceful and nice, but something synthetic and cybernetic. It is very good for some trance pads!
And there is a hero. Charsiesis. It's just the best imho. Very comfortable interface with wide range of tuning and. It allows to choose lfo's form, and it is very good for ensemble pads. I mean that pulse form is better than sine or triangle for such pads. But it's "stepping random" form really hits the spot and even better than raw pulse.
Pads sounds very bland, lush, rustle and forceful.
Some bonus notes. I find that ensemble fx in XPhraze sounds excellent, but this fx is built-in to my regret and thus unusual. And series combination of LAP chorus and MDE-X Ensemble sounds good and interesting too.
P.S. All this reasonings are IMHO.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 431 posts since 27 Sep, 2005
I have sketched a little Chicane-like pads demo with ES2 and Charsiesis (and reverb. Bells are not synthesized, its a sample.) Here it is. http://rapidshare.de/files/29234619/chpad.ogg.html
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- Banned
- 4026 posts since 27 Jan, 2004
Wow! Awesome!!!trance_lucent wrote:I have sketched a little Chicane-like pads demo with ES2 and Charsiesis (and reverb. Bells are not synthesized, its a sample.) Here it is. http://rapidshare.de/files/29234619/chpad.ogg.html
I had no idea that the chorus was that thick!
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- KVRAF
- 3191 posts since 20 Sep, 2004 from Atlanta
trance_lucent, that IS beautiful! very nice use of Charsiesis. In my own experience, I have to be careful with Charsiesis... in my shaky hands, it can easily get out of control and I've gotten very suprising gain jumps from foolish settings I've asked of it 
...when will i learn to always strap a nice limiter to my master output??? 
...when will i learn to always strap a nice limiter to my master output??? -
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 431 posts since 27 Sep, 2005
thanks snooky, thanks blortblort, pad creating is really my hobby-horse and i'm mad on it. 
blortblort, in my expirience, if i see that i need to use a dynamic processor to redeem an error in sound, it means that sound is wrong in itself. And it means that i need reconsider overall sound design (synthesis and fx-processing) of this sound.
I'm slightly overacting, but truth is somethere near...
As for tuning the settings for plugins, i often use spectrum and oscillogram monitoring with brainwork, not only my ears - it usually helps to come to desired sound without any errors.
blortblort, in my expirience, if i see that i need to use a dynamic processor to redeem an error in sound, it means that sound is wrong in itself.
And it means that i need reconsider overall sound design (synthesis and fx-processing) of this sound.I'm slightly overacting, but truth is somethere near...
As for tuning the settings for plugins, i often use spectrum and oscillogram monitoring with brainwork, not only my ears - it usually helps to come to desired sound without any errors.