KVR Audio

plofstof · Post by **plofstof** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:09 pm

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Anyone else experienced this?

I'm using BBE Sonic Maximizer in Cubase. When I open a project that uses BBESM (VST) it usually rips my ears off with a burst of whitish noise so loud that the Cubase mixer registers 100dB at the master output. After I recover from the shock I'm usually just relieved to see that my monitors survived. That's if I was lucky enough not to be using headphones at the time.

The most horrible sound. Words cannot describe it. I'd rather chew glass than hear it again.

I've reported the same thing here (http://forum.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=58645) on Cubase's forum and it appears I'm not alone.

In the past I got around this by using the DX version of BBESM but now that Steinberg (in all their wisdom) dropped DX support in Cubase4 I'm a at a loss. I know I can try a wrapper but I would much prefer just fixing this and using the VST version.

I'm hoping the more technically inclined gurus here at kvr have some advice to offer...

Lee702 · Post by **Lee702** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:20 pm

The VST is unusable I loaded it up with headphones on before I knew about this noise burst. Email Refined Audiometrics and ask them if they could send you a copy of Clas info@refined-audiometrics.com Be patient with them It took me about a month to recieve a copy. http://refinedaudiometrics.com/products-clas.shtml

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:45 pm

Same here. Not only did BBE barely react for me, it also sounded like total crap. Your best solutions for a "similar sound" is either CLAS, or Elogoxa X-Citer - and the best thing on it, both are free.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:33 am

Works fine here, FL Studio.

kilroy · Post by **kilroy** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:08 am

plofstof wrote:I'd rather chew glass than hear it again.

That was pretty much my original impression when I first heard the actual BBE process.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:37 am

kilroy wrote:
plofstof wrote:I'd rather chew glass than hear it again.
That was pretty much my original impression when I first heard the actual BBE process.

Don't kill me, but I still like this thing on certain guitars, at certain times. It can be harsher than bad cocaine though, and the low band is useless.

That reminds me to write BBE. I can't believe they've never fixed this. And with Cubase 4 on the horizon, you won't be able to use the DX version anymore!

the way · Post by **the way** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:06 pm

Simply load the DX version into either VB Audio's ffx-4 or Acon's Effectchainer. They both allow you to load DX effects into VST hosts.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:09 pm

kilroy wrote:
plofstof wrote:I'd rather chew glass than hear it again.
That was pretty much my original impression when I first heard the actual BBE process.

Haha.. totally agree!

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:10 pm

the way wrote:Simply load the DX version into either VB Audio's ffx-4 or Acon's Effectchainer. They both allow you to load DX effects into VST hosts.

Oh yeah. Never mind.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:11 pm

bmanic wrote:
kilroy wrote:
plofstof wrote:I'd rather chew glass than hear it again.
That was pretty much my original impression when I first heard the actual BBE process.
Haha.. totally agree!

Curious: are you guys talking about the VST plugin or the real, rack-mount version?

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:42 pm

In this case, the VST (er.. DX) version.

I still recommend those freebies though. Way more transparent, and less overpowered than BBE. At least that's my opinion, and I use(d) all of them.

sweet_trip · Post by **sweet_trip** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:43 pm

i think it's a good plugin too. it has saved some rather muddy samples and mixes in the past, but i never use it as a bass enhancer. i'd love to try Clas.

on a related note, i've had the pleasure of using Voxengo HarmoniEQ on a mix once when something like the BBE was needed, and that was really the best sonic enhancer i've evr ever used...

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:10 pm

Compyfox wrote:In this case, the VST (er.. DX) version.

I still recommend those freebies though. Way more transparent, and less overpowered than BBE. At least that's my opinion, and I use(d) all of them.

Yeah, I have, use and love CLAS; more smoother-sounding than BBE, for sure. I have a Strat, and the BBE works well with the "toppy" sound, but CLAS works very well too. I find it most useful for super-fast mastering, it instantly brightens up a track.

adl · Post by **adl** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:54 pm

Jep! CLAS rules. Took me just 2 or 3 days to recieve a email including CLAS. Have it on my Masterbus always.

BBE Sonic Maximizer blows my ears off... no, literally!