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deep'n'dark · Post by **deep'n'dark** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:03 pm

Last album was made with Reason. Idunno but that album still blows my mind and whatta fat sound !! Very damn good sound and Production for that kinda music.

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:05 pm

Think he was still using his Roland W-30, JD-990 and effects by Boss SE-70.

Kit list from FM 1993:
Akai S1100
E-MU Proteus 3
Roland SH-101
Roland Alpha Juno-2
Minimoog
Roland U-220
Roland TB-303
Roland TR-909
Roland W-3 (natch)

Doesn't mention the JD or SE, but i know he used (uses?) them a lot (i think he had five SE-70s for live use).

deep'n'dark · Post by **deep'n'dark** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:09 pm

Oh i found he's answer from article and Liam said:

About 2 years ago I started working again, but soon realized I needed to shift myself out of the formula I'd gotten into from working in the same environment all the time. I'd written everything in Cubase from 1993 onwards, with a bunch of hardware synths and Akai samplers as my main setup. I sat down and I thought, "well... this is just so boring. How can I ever get inspired doing the same old thing? How am I gonna write a fresh, inspired album? I'm not enjoying it, it's not going anywhere, I hate my studio, I hate all the equipment in it."

Reverse Engineer · Post by **Reverse Engineer** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:15 pm

It's just a shame that his boredom led him to bore me. Experience and Music for the...are 1st class albums, the rest after are shite (ok, three or four tracks from them amount to 'ok', but the rest are utter bollocks compared to what he's shown he's capable of).

deep'n'dark · Post by **deep'n'dark** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:24 pm

I myself Think that The Fat of The Land is the best, the best sounding sound at least - Music For . . is also dope, especially Poison. I was seeing them this year and it was awesome, but none of the tracks of the latest album were in show-list. Liam also said that he will not use reason for next album.

Reverse Engineer · Post by **Reverse Engineer** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:53 pm

deep'n'dark wrote:I myself Think that The Fat of The Land is the best, the best sounding sound at least - Music For . . is also dope, especially Poison. I was seeing them this year and it was awesome, but none of the tracks of the latest album were in show-list. Liam also said that he will not use reason for next album.

Well...the three or four i mentioned all come from the fat...the last album was genuine shite, not one solitary track on it was/is/will ever be worth the five or so minutes it takes to listen. Liam Howlett is undoubtedly a talent, lets hope he starts loving what he does again.

aallvor · Post by **aallvor** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:05 pm

I thought 'Girls' was cool, but no way I'm gonna buy the album. Oh, and about using Reason; not really, in my opinion. Every single sound was re-recorded with analog synths and processed with high end outboard before it went to mastering...

dalor · Post by **dalor** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:26 pm

Reverse Engineer wrote:It's just a shame that his boredom led him to bore me. Experience and Music for the...are 1st class albums, the rest after are shite (ok, three or four tracks from them amount to 'ok', but the rest are utter bollocks compared to what he's shown he's capable of).

Hello soulbrother - same thought here!
I saw them live early 90s and i was a huuughe fan. I was quite disappointed when they changed their style for which I admired them for.
IMO 'The Fat of the Land' doesn't come close innovative wise to 'Experience' and 'Music for the jilted Generation' - in fact you can't compare those, the music styles are too different. I think Liam Hawlett panicked after having hughe success with the first two albums and didn't want to repeat himself in doing similar music with the same equipment - which was a bad decision...

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:12 pm

aallvor wrote:Every single sound was re-recorded with analog synths

Er... no... that's a straight up lie if I ever read one.

aallvor · Post by **aallvor** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:41 pm

Amberience wrote:
aallvor wrote:Every single sound was re-recorded with analog synths
Er... no... that's a straight up lie if I ever read one.

Maybe I went a bit overboard there

But - If you read this sos article, there's really not much left of Reason's sounds in the end product
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Oct04/a ... rodigy.htm

Cheers

deggy · Post by **deggy** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:09 am

experience - like almost every track was an anthem. jilted, decent, some great beats on that one. fat of the land..., some decent tracks (love the cover of L7 - Fuel my fire... L7 was a band i used to like back in junior high). that last one... ummmmm, well....

still, it's crazy that that guy did charly and experience with basically just a w-30 and some fx processors... i mean, armand ven helden made all music with w-30s, but it sounds like it was made with w-30s and no effort (at least until 2future4U)

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:16 am

It doesnt really matter what they used. Liam could get the sounds he wants with any sequencer if he wanted to.

deggy · Post by **deggy** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:18 am

Amberience wrote:
aallvor wrote:Every single sound was re-recorded with analog synths
Er... no... that's a straight up lie if I ever read one.

not every sound but most sounds though. you can still hear the subtractor preset for example at the beginning of spitfire and that first guitar chord sample was prob still comin from the nn-xt, beats were prob pounding from that redrum... but the fat-ass bass synth in girls is definitely not commin from reason.

deggy · Post by **deggy** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:24 am

also don't forget that a lot of the stuff was processed through different analogue pres or rewired into protools and noodled with in pt by the engineer(s)...

i mean, you can take any old shit made in reason and throw it through some nice pre's and use some nice rtas/TDM plugs and with an intelligent engineer, it will sound half decent... (just ask the beastie boys... that last album sounded pretty craptacular without mario caldato jr..

deep'n'dark · Post by **deep'n'dark** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:54 am

i think that Liam has been throwing stuff trough Sherman Filterbank.

What did Prodigy use to make The Fat of The Land?